Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Maybe you should have done some reading before posting your preconceived view.

Well, I am raising the issue for discussion.

I bet you know stuff all. Did you learn everything you “know” from YouTubes?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

Many of us have already told you.
We don't need you to
1 start another topic
2 regurgitate stuff you are currently ignorant of as you already do on this forum.

You don't listen...

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 10:29pm:



No

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_nuclear_fuel

Spent nuclear fuel, what it is, how to treat it.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 10:25pm:




I worked at ANSTO in material sciences and radiopharmaceuticals?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:28am:




Godd - set Jovial straight please.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:38am:


Much more radioactive.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 10:16pm:

Many of us have already told you.
We don't need you to
1 start another topic
2 regurgitate stuff you are currently ignorant of as you already do on this forum.

You don't listen...

And of course there would never have been leaks in  its wild state.

5 times the warning level? Is that above or below the danger level?

Oh, electrical conductivity?

by electrical conductivity?

By radioactivity from: uranium, sulphate and radium contaminants.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 10:15pm:



Then perhaps you should quote an article detailing radioactivity rather an one quoting electrical conductivity.

So not much more than background radioactivity? Doesn’t glow at night? No two headed crocodiles?

So you have no clue what is in Kakadu.

You already said that you guppy!

HM is left.

Is it concentrated or spread far and wide. HM made it out of Kakdu.

God, can’t you present complete information? No wonder you believe that stupid liar Dubyne.

HM radioactivity is in Kakadu?

So the spill happened 4 years ago.

And maybe the radioactive waste didn’t even get into Kakadu?

Wednesday, March 15, 1995
By Pip Hinman

Energy Resources of Australia, the operator of the Ranger uranium mine in Kakadu in the Northern Territory, announced on March 9 that it intends to release radioactive water into nearby Magela Creek. ERA has been given permission to pollute this World Heritage wetlands area by the federal government, the Office of the Supervising Scientist and the NT acting mines and energy minister, Fred Finch.

A request for an injunction to stop the release, sought by five traditional owners, will be heard by the Supreme Court on March 16.

ERA argues that the release of contaminated water from Retention Pond 2, for the first time in Ranger's 15-year history, is unavoidable because of the near-record wet season. "For this very reason, release standards were set and approved in 1985, defining the safe maximum amounts of contaminants permitted to enter the Magela Creek system", said Finch.

Finch argues that the wastes will be diluted to a virtually undetectable level. "With creek flows of this nature, the water is not only safe but is guaranteed to reach the ocean." The minister caused further controversy when he said he would be "very happy" to drink the diluted water.

NT Medical Association for the Prevention of War (MAPW) spokesperson Philip Nitschke described Finch's comments as "foolish" and "irresponsible". "There is no 'safe' level for the ingestion of radioactive materials, and it is an accepted medical principle that humans should be exposed as little radiation as possible."

MAPW has called on the federal government to publicly release information about the nature of the contamination, and in particular their half-lives, the quantities of each of the isotopes to be released, and the expected distribution of contaminants across the flood plain. "When this information is made public, the broader community will be in a better position to assess whether it supports such an environmentally irresponsible act."

According to the NT Environment Centre's (NTEC) Richard Ledgar, Ranger was originally designed as a no release mine, but due to design faults ERA has consistently sought to release. "The natural environment should not have to pay for poor design. This is an ongoing, long-term problem which will not be solved by this release."

The NTEC is concerned that a release approval would set a dangerous precedent and represent a major weakening in the environmental safeguards protecting the World Heritage wetlands of Kakadu. "These pollutants do not just dissolve in water and disappear. They lodge in the food chain and accumulate."

The NT government has been attempting to play some of the traditional owners off against each other, saying it had received "mixed reactions" to ERA's release application. However, Northern Land Council chairperson Galarrwuy Yunupingu said on March 9, "Aboriginal people oppose the release because they are worried about their water and food supply. What would happen if Retention Pond 2 water was released into Darwin's water supply. Wouldn't the people of Darwin be outraged and rightly concerned about the effects? That is exactly how the people downstream of the pond are taking the news — they feel they are being forced out."

According to the Land Council and the NTEC, ERA has alternatives which will keep the contaminants within the restricted release zone. For instance, ERA could release excess water into the empty pit of the ore body, which was mined out last December. "Water management has always been a problem at Ranger and approval for this release will allow ERA to sidestep its obligations and to go for the cheap option. The only long-term solution is to immediately cease production, close and rehabilitate the Ranger mine site", concluded the NTEC.

KATINA VANGOPOULOS, NT News
December 9, 2013 12:00am

PROCESSING operations at the Ranger Uranium Mine have been stopped by a government taskforce until they complete a full investigation into Saturday's radioactive spill incident.
A joint taskforce led by the Northern Territory Government will include assistance from the Department of Mines and Energy (DME), Northern Territory WorkSafe, the Australian Government Department of Industry and the Australian Government Supervising Scientist Division.
The spill, of up to

1.5 million litres,

came from a failed leach tank about 1am on Saturday.

An Australian uranium expert says the acid mixed with the slurry that spilled from the tank is likely to be an even bigger concern than any radioactivity.

Energy Resources of Australia has reported the spill was contained by the mine's management system and would not impact Kakadu National Park.

However, Ms Peris said for the environment and local communities, enough was enough.

"All operations should cease and independent scrutiny should be applied to the mine's operations," she said.

"The office of the supervising scientist also needs to step up and make a contribution in this debate."

Backing concern from the Gundjeihmi Aboriginal Corporation and fellow senators, Ms Peris said the situation foreshadowed future occurrences.

"I am also concerned these sorts of spills and events are what would happen if we are forced to have the Muckaty nuclear waste dump imposed on us," she said.

ERA released a second statement yesterday that said all water-monitoring points had reported normal readings. Processing operations at the mine had stopped and clean-up operations were "well-advanced".

A spokesperson said ERA would commission a full investigation into the incident and was co-operating with Commonwealth and Territory regulators.

He said further announcements would be made once the full impact on operations was understood.

It is believed production could be shut down for months, affecting hundreds of employees.

ERA employs more than 500 people as a large contributor to the Alligator Rivers Region and Northern Territory economies.

Meanwhile, a uranium expert at the University of Adelaide told the ABC yesterday the slurry that spilled from the tank was likely to have a low level of radioactivity.

Professor Steven Lincoln said uranium ore was broken down when mixed with either sulphuric or nitric acid, as part of the uranium refining process.

He said it was the acid, rather than the uranium, that was the concern.

"So at this level, the radioactivity is not a worry," he said.

"The chemicals they used are more worrisome than the radioactivity. Sulphuric acid is a very strong acid, so it's something you keep very carefully under control."

And the actual radioactivity in Kakadu? Don’t know? Then just say so.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 11:07pm:


Bobby makes a fair factual point and you have a rabid spray...

Do leave off with your repetitive crap.

None of you have any info about HM radioactivity there is in Kakdu.

Since you are making such fuss about a spill I would have thought you would have done the follow up.

Booby waving his white flag as usual. No real evidence ever, eh Booby.

Ranger should not have been given the go ahead because of its location: tropical rain.

But the issue is not the accidents at one mine or another. Or the very few failures of nuclear reactors and the handful of deaths they caused.

The issue is that we are cooking the world with our carbon emissions and we have to urgently reduce them.

I suggest a mix of fission and renewables. Until fusion is commercialised.

Coal is even more dangerous even without its GHG emissions.

There is no easy choice, Booby, balance of risk is what we must do.