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NEW MOD NEEDED FOR ENVIRONMENT
Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:38pm
 
Come on, FD!

John is NOT coming back!
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Reply #1 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:47pm
 
I'll do it.

I am unbiased - fair & impartial.
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Reply #2 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:49pm
 
You are a nincumpoop falling for the lies of Dubyne.

You couldn’t mod yourself little boy.
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Reply #3 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
ou couldn’t mod yourself little boy.



And neither could you  OLD man. Wink
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I'll do it.

I am unbiased - fair & impartial.
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Reply #5 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:11pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
You are a nincumpoop


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Reply #6 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
Monk's already proven he cant be fair and impartial.
he's already moved a topic deleted everyone else's opinion and locked it so no dissenting opinion can be posted. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #7 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:52pm
 
No, I created a good post in Aussie’s board and he locked it.

No other way to make a good post and not have it covered in short order by bullshit, deflection, crap, obfuscation etc.

I would be a good Mod, facilitating real debate.
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Reply #8 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:00pm
 
I nominate Greg.

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Gregg is a foulmouthed idiot.
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Reply #10 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Gregg is a foulmouthed idiot.



we're all idiots at times Monk ... and it's not like there's never been anything foul to come out of your mouth. I've seen you let loose before.

It needs fresh blood, and preferably no one that has anything to do with the history at PA, otherwise the board will end up another tavern/ relationships type crap where posters are banned from one or the other depending on what side of the fence they sit
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Reply #11 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:25pm
 
Nothing at all to do with PA, John, WTF??

Something to do with getting some decent discussion going here. See all the bullshit, obfuscation and deflection happening here? Goodness sake, I have had to ask Aussie to host some decent posts at his joint, free of 6 miles of bullshit, deflection and obfuscation!

So—a Mod that knows a bit about this subject, can make some decent posts.

Too many frightened little souls trying to pretend AGW isn’t happening.

Gregg is a frightened little denier, most unsuited to Modding this board.

Get bloody real John!
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Reply #12 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Gregg is a foulmouthed idiot.



we're all idiots at times Monk ... and it's not like there's never been anything foul to come out of your mouth. I've seen you let loose before.

It needs fresh blood, and preferably no one that has anything to do with the history at PA, otherwise the board will end up another tavern/ relationships type crap where posters are banned from one or the other depending on what side of the fence they sit


Come on everyone!  Put your partisan dicks back in your pants.  Mr Smith, no-one is banned at Relationships because of any side of the fence they might be in your eyes.  They are banned because of their crap conduct.

Monk is the natural Leader of this Board.  It is Monk who has dragged it out of irrelevance, he has put the yards in and deserves the stripes.
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Reply #13 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:35pm
 
Yeah, John and Chimp etc ran away, ran from the unending obfuscation and bullshit from Lees. They won’t be back.

I am made of sterner stuff.

I keep putting the m0re ons like Loser Lees and Boobhead to flight.

This board could be a real asset to OP, good links to authoritative sites.

Up to FD and whether he wants a vibrant board or just an Islam–bashing board with one or two bits to make it look like a well rounded forum.

His food board is dreck, Real Estate a joke and so on.

MANAGE your forum FD!
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Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
No, I created a good post in Aussie’s board and he locked it.

No other way to make a good post and not have it covered in short order by bullshit, deflection, crap, obfuscation etc.

I would be a good Mod, facilitating real debate.

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Reply #15 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
A cockroach emerges, drops some cockroach poop and scurries away.

You know less than Loser Lees yet you are even more determined not to learn anything new, anything that might change your mind.

You are a pointless waste of space, roach!
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Reply #16 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:01pm
 
Tell us more on the null hypothesis. Wink
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Reply #17 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:06pm
 
What more do you need, Loser Lees?

I have given you TWO detailed expositions on the null hypothesis.

The null hypothesis is the mathematical relationship that holds if the theory is false.

What is so hard to grasp about that?

I am really puzzled why you don’t understand.
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Reply #18 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Gregg is a foulmouthed idiot.



we're all idiots at times Monk ... and it's not like there's never been anything foul to come out of your mouth. I've seen you let loose before.

It needs fresh blood, and preferably no one that has anything to do with the history at PA, otherwise the board will end up another tavern/ relationships type crap where posters are banned from one or the other depending on what side of the fence they sit


Come on everyone!  Put your partisan dicks back in your pants.  Mr Smith, no-one is banned at Relationships because of any side of the fence they might be in your eyes.  They are banned because of their crap conduct.

Monk is the natural Leader of this Board.  It is Monk who has dragged it out of irrelevance, he has put the yards in and deserves the stripes.




Monk is the natural Leader of this Board.


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Reply #19 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:10pm
 
So, I am the only one who has a clue about any of this stuff.

YOU chose to believe a liar like Dubyne. No leadership there.

Loser Lees is desperate to avoid having to admit AGW is here and now and real.

roach is just an idiot, nothing of any interest in anything he posts.

Just me trying to keep the science showing through, trying to show how things are done, trying to keep things real.

Why should I not mod this board?
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Reply #20 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
So, I am the only one who has a clue about any of this stuff.

YOU chose to believe a liar like Dubyne. No leadership there.

Loser Lees is desperate to avoid having to admit AGW is here and now and real.

roach is just an idiot, nothing of any interest in anything he posts.

Just me trying to keep the science showing through, trying to show how things are done, trying to keep things real.

Why should I not mod this board?



Because you're a senile old fool who believes
everything the media tells you.
You can't think for yourself.
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Reply #21 - Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:23pm
 
*I* can’t think for myself says the clown believing every word of a transparent liar!

YOU only ever post crap told to you by Liar Dubyne.

You cannot defend Dubyne or refute anything I criticise about his STUPID videos.

I have never posted anything from the MSM here. You only post Liar Dubyne.

Face it Boobhead you are fricking ridiculous!
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Reply #22 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:41am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:23pm:
*I* can’t think for myself says the clown believing every word of a transparent liar!

YOU only ever post crap told to you by Liar Dubyne.

You cannot defend Dubyne or refute anything I criticise about his STUPID videos.

I have never posted anything from the MSM here. You only post Liar Dubyne.

Face it Boobhead you are fricking ridiculous!

I don't think 8 year olds like you should be moderators. I know in dog years that is 56 year but you are not a dog, sonny, you are just an 8 year old, judging by your scope and vocab.


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Reply #23 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:44am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:00pm:
I nominate Greg.


Turdy is sound on the environment - he is an AGW sceptic.
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Reply #24 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
Loser Lees is desperate to avoid having to admit AGW is here and now and real.



But I have admitted some AGW. Remember UHI? The slow release of heat overnight from roads, carparks, Airport runways, high rise buildings? Wink

But there is no need for a new moderator JM. You now have your own locked fiefdom in Relationships. The perfect echo chamber, where you can distinctly hear the sound of one hand clapping.
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Reply #25 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:10pm
 
AGW—blocking of IR by GHGs.
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Reply #26 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:13pm
 
Nah, should be able to post articles here and get sensible debate, not your obfuscation and deflection and copious bullshit.

You anywhere ready to expound on your natural variation thingy?

theory
–mechanism

H1

H0


Test. . . . ???
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Reply #27 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
Oh, and a second article will appear in Relationships soon.

Have a read, it will be chock full of facts.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
You anywhere ready to expound on your natural variation thingy?



No. When are you going to declare either AGW or natural variation as the null hypothesis? Or you could propose a third. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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No, those are not null hypothesis. No wonder I call you Loser Lees! I reckon you were the office boy and tea fetcher in your Elec/Elec “Cipher” unit.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Gregg is a foulmouthed idiot.



we're all idiots at times Monk ... and it's not like there's never been anything foul to come out of your mouth. I've seen you let loose before.

It needs fresh blood, and preferably no one that has anything to do with the history at PA, otherwise the board will end up another tavern/ relationships type crap where posters are banned from one or the other depending on what side of the fence they sit


Come on everyone!  Put your partisan dicks back in your pants.  Mr Smith, no-one is banned at Relationships because of any side of the fence they might be in your eyes.  They are banned because of their crap conduct.

Monk is the natural Leader of this Board.  It is Monk who has dragged it out of irrelevance, he has put the yards in and deserves the stripes.


it's always the same old tune over there Aussie. I don't particularly care if no one is currently banned.
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Reply #31 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 4:55pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:25pm:
Nothing at all to do with PA, John, WTF??

Something to do with getting some decent discussion going here. See all the bullshit, obfuscation and deflection happening here? Goodness sake, I have had to ask Aussie to host some decent posts at his joint, free of 6 miles of bullshit, deflection and obfuscation!

So—a Mod that knows a bit about this subject, can make some decent posts.

Too many frightened little souls trying to pretend AGW isn’t happening.

Gregg is a frightened little denier, most unsuited to Modding this board.

Get bloody real John!


I like you Monk, but I wouldn't pick you as a mod. You had your chance and it failed miserably. I know you had your excuses but your excuses aren't whats best for the board.
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Reply #32 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:16pm
 
No excuses but I could not keep going with Hicks regularly coming in and destroying the board.

This is not my board, it won’t end up deleted.
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Reply #33 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:23pm
 
I have also said we need anybody with a bit of a clue about this stuff: kinda rules out Loser Lees, Boobhead and roach. Not that anybody would have suggested roach  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy or the other two really  Wink


But something needs to be done. I am willing to agree to any t&c FD wants to impose.

Not going to keep going here much longer as this board is.

FD really does have to manage his forum. Many more boards need a real, present Mod appointed. And another GMod tho who would be good stuffed if I know! Maybe he could appoint another GMod to look after all the many orphaned boards?
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Reply #34 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 6:37pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:23pm:
But something needs to be done. I am willing to agree to any t&c FD wants to impose.


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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:23pm:
Not going to keep going here much longer as this board is.


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No, I don’t think you will like it.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
No, I don’t think you will like it.


Only because a mod should be FAIR, IMPARTIAL. You have shown yourself to be neither.
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Because a Mod needs to keep a board on track, not waylaid and blocked up with bullshit.

do you think you contribute anything besides bullshit, deflection and obfuscation, Loser Lees?

I mean, it is pretty bloody obvious by now that your “Natural Variability” is not a real theory.

You know NOTHING about climatology, AGW etc etc. You try and derail serious discussion of these topics. You are a logjam not a debater.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Because a Mod needs to keep a board on track, not waylaid and blocked up with bullshit.


so you think aussie is a crap mod? I agree. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #39 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:37pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
No, I don’t think you will like it.

Well we know you don't like it how it is.
You cant get away with posting crap, people dissent and show your stupidity up for what it is.

That's what you prefer, YOUR SEWER, where no one can disagree with you. Cheesy
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No problem with people correcting stuff I post.

But I post stuff from scientific papers so little of what I post is subject to correction.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
No problem with people correcting stuff I post.

But I post stuff from scientific papers so little of what I post is subject to correction.

How would you know what they post you spend so much time ignoring and avoiding what is said. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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I think JM would make a respectable mod. for the Environment Board. He is passionate , erudite and doesn't suffer fools gladly. He remains resolute in the face of the most obnoxious opposition , and is, I believe, able to 'let go' of a couple of 'pet topics' to act effectively as a Mod.

By THAT, I mean, JM, that you would have to 'ceasefire 'on at least one topic. Can you do that.??
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Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:51am:
I think JM would make a respectable mod. for the Environment Board. He is passionate , erudite and doesn't suffer fools gladly. He remains resolute in the face of the most obnoxious opposition , and is, I believe, able to 'let go' of a couple of 'pet topics' to act effectively as a Mod.

By THAT, I mean, JM, that you would have to 'ceasefire 'on at least one topic. Can you do that.??



Just read all of Monk's ad hominem attacks especially in the Ice Age thread:

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So Loser Lees

nincumpoop Boobhead nor Loser Lees



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Neither Boobhead nor Loser Lees care to put their bullshit to the test. Very wise of them.

Boobhead—Dubyne lies all the bloody time. He has less idea of climate than you do and you know Jack Schitt about it.


even in his signature:
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Boobyhead is NOT the dumbest here! Lees thinks climate change is summer giving way to winter!

Roach outdoes both in stupidity!




Does that sound like a person who's fair, balanced  & impartial or a good moderator?

Or - does it sound like an obsessive, abusive troll?
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I think so, Emma.

Boobhead—you started the ad homs. Each time I showed you the lies Dubyne told you would call me fool, bloody fool, troll. You NEVER really discussed what I said. That makes you an idiot who believes a liar.

Face it, you hate that nobody watches or cares about those stupid, lying videos, not here and not at PA. If you could refute something I write criticising the stupid videos it would not be so bad, but you can’t.

In trying to get me to admit to a “pause” you posted graph after graph of temperature series. All of these showed temperatures that are high, in other words, the opposite of an Ice Age and THEN you told me you believe we are in an Ice Age. That is STUPID!

Lees posts crap to bury any papers showing AGW is happening. He craps on about natural variation being the “obvious” explanation for the increase in temperatures since 1850 yet cannot explain it. He started the ad homs.

As Mod of this board I will be careful not to let dislike of stupidity get in the way of fair modding.

Booby: with temperatures over 1°C hotter than they were in 1850 how can we be in an Ice Age? How can America have a warm winter if we are in an Ice Age? How can the northern hemisphere be having a blazing hot summer and we be having a mild winter if we are in an Ice Age?
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Jovial neglected piles of evidence -
including the Maunder minimum -
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I ASKED lots of times for evidence we were in a MM.

You never gave any evidence.

The videos are compilations of lies and bullshit. Dubyne has not given evidence we are in a MM.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:01am:
I ASKED lots of times for evidence we were in a MM.

You never gave any evidence.

The videos are compilations of lies and bullshit. Dubyne has not given evidence we are in a MM.



Jovial,
you were given plenty of evidence -
about 500 videos & you admitted that you never watched any of them.
You refused to even consider an alternative theory.

Science is all about theory yet you chose to only use
evidence which supported the theory of AGW.
Even when the AGW people ( your friends)admitted there has been a PAUSE for 18
years you still went out with your own wild extreme views.

You act as though you're a climate scientist when your views hold no intellectual weight whatsoever.

I - on the other hand - admit that I'm not a climate scientist
& just seek to show an alternative theory or theories.

For being a humble messenger you have attacked me - abused me -
called me names & continued for 100s of pages.
You even got me banned once when I tried to fight back.

You're nothing but a one eyed trouble maker on this forum &
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The videos LIE!

Claim: veges are being rationed in the UK because of the LIA
Investigation by me: Murcia and Valencia parts of Spain suffered so much rain their fields, which supply 80% of europes winter veges, were unworkable. Nothing to do with an Ice Age!

Claim: Greenland at -54°F is record cold.
Investigation: Greenland recorded minimum was in 1940s at -84°F

Claim: A fox fell through thin ice into the Danube and was flash frozen
Investigation: a farmer found the fox, fished it out the Danube, froze it into a block of ice and put it by the river to warn people the ice was too thin to be walked on.

Claim: a lake turning pink in Melbourne was a sign of a LIA
Investigation: No, lakes turn pink in Australia due to a bacteria


And so it went on and on and on.

I did an investigation. I found that the US, England, Europe, northern Africa, India, Siberia and China were all in the grip of heatwaves! A bit earlier Portugal had suffered massive wildfires in which 60 people died—the Portuguese wild fire season, I read, had lengthened from 2 to 5 months. Weird for an Ice Age.

I also found that the Larsen C ice shelf had been melted by warm air and warm waters so it had lost 4m of depth of ice. Weird for an ice age. West Antarctica is heating up, weird for an Ice Age.
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As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.


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Neferti wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:58am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.



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AGW is here, Booby!

Boobyhead is NOT the dumbest here! Lees thinks climate change is summer giving way to winter!

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Neferti wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:58am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.


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I know....FD is no doubt doing just that  Grin

It beggars belief how someone like him could post such nonsense esp after all the revolting online cyber cr@p he's been exposed for.  Shocked
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.


Sorry JV you don't get my vote, you have been radicalised in to believing that AGW is as the media paints it to be.

We need a mod in the middle ground.

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Reply #54 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:22am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 10:41pm:
A cockroach emerges, drops some cockroach poop and scurries away.

You know less than Loser Lees yet you are even more determined not to learn anything new, anything that might change your mind.

You are a pointless waste of space, roach!

thank for proving my point yet again.
YOU can't be a mod...  anywhere except in your own SEWER.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Nah, should be able to post articles here and get sensible debate, not your obfuscation and deflection and copious bullshit.

You anywhere ready to expound on your natural variation thingy?

theory
–mechanism

H1

H0


Test. . . . ???

Uh, YOU shut-down sensible debate dopey...  in fact you ignore sensible debate flood the place with crap then keep crappping on in the same direction even when shown to be wrong. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #56 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:31am
 
Where have I ever posted anything from the MSM, Ajax?

You talk about higher concentrations of CO2 in long ago geological eras. I posted long extracts of a scientific paper that answered your question.

Sorry you will not admit AGW is happening but happening it is. The temperature series are all trending up, have done since the mid 1800s. The mechanism of AGW has been demonstrated as true by spectroscopic evidence: molecules of GHGs do absorb photons (or rays if you like) of infrared radiation coming from the surface of the earth, re-emit them but when they re-emit them they are as likely to re-emit them downwards as upwards. If they re-emit them upwards another molecule of a GHG might absorb it and so on.

As a result, spectrometry shows that at the frequencies corresponding to the various GHGs less infrared radiation is detected. That means that the GHGs in the atmosphere act like a blanket over the earth, preventing heat from leaving and so warming the earth.

So the theory—everything in science is a theory (laws of science just summarise but do not explain things)—of AGW has the evidence to back it up.

Nothing BUT AGW can explain why the world is heating—and heating up it is! 2016 was the hottest year recorded, 2017 is also a hot year with March this year the second hottest ever recorded.
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Reply #57 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:37am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Because a Mod needs to keep a board on track, not waylaid and blocked up with bullshit.

do you think you contribute anything besides bullshit, deflection and obfuscation, Loser Lees?

I mean, it is pretty bloody obvious by now that your “Natural Variability” is not a real theory.

You know NOTHING about climatology, AGW etc etc. You try and derail serious discussion of these topics. You are a logjam not a debater.

NO IT'S A REALITY....

YOU know more about the bottom of a barrel than climate Monk face it, you have trouble with discerning weather from climate.
You crap on about physics and science you clearly are ignorant of and are just reguritating crap based on that ignorance.
How long are you going to crap on about Null Hypothesis?  So far it seems you are clueless about it and the process it is part of.
It isn't even a necessity in the debate yet you keep crapping on about it with no benefit to the debate or progress.
Nope....  you just want control.
Control of the debate and the people debating.
Your SEWER consists of YOU talking to YOURSELF.
Now you've taken your bat and ball and moved to Relationships...  goodo...  stay there, that is your limit of ability in a debate.
BTW if there is no such thing as Natural variability, then your whole argument is pointless. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #58 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:39am
 
The only reason for not making me Mod here is if FD knows John is coming back.

I don’t think John is coming back—he got sick of the crap Lees constantly posts to obfuscate and bury any interesting material posted that, inevitably, supports AGW.

I won’t let Lees chase ME off.

roach reckons insisting Loser Lees explain his NV thingy is shutting down debate. Nope, but if you advance a proposition you have to be able to argue it. Loser Lees has failed to do so.
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Reply #59 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:40am
 
Looks like roach knows I am the only possible candidate for Mod here.

Not an expert on climatology nevertheless I do have a background in science and so the natural choice for Mod of this scientific board.
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Hear hear....


Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:49am:
Emma wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:51am:
I think JM would make a respectable mod. for the Environment Board. He is passionate , erudite and doesn't suffer fools gladly. He remains resolute in the face of the most obnoxious opposition , and is, I believe, able to 'let go' of a couple of 'pet topics' to act effectively as a Mod.

By THAT, I mean, JM, that you would have to 'ceasefire 'on at least one topic. Can you do that.??



Just read all of Monk's ad hominem attacks especially in the Ice Age thread:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/3645

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So Loser Lees

nincumpoop Boobhead nor Loser Lees



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Neither Boobhead nor Loser Lees care to put their bullshit to the test. Very wise of them.

Boobhead—Dubyne lies all the bloody time. He has less idea of climate than you do and you know Jack Schitt about it.


even in his signature:
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Roach outdoes both in stupidity!




Does that sound like a person who's fair, balanced  & impartial or a good moderator?

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Hear Hear...


Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:17am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:01am:
I ASKED lots of times for evidence we were in a MM.

You never gave any evidence.

The videos are compilations of lies and bullshit. Dubyne has not given evidence we are in a MM.



Jovial,
you were given plenty of evidence -
about 500 videos & you admitted that you never watched any of them.
You refused to even consider an alternative theory.

Science is all about theory yet you chose to only use
evidence which supported the theory of AGW.
Even when the AGW people ( your friends)admitted there has been a PAUSE for 18
years you still went out with your own wild extreme views.

You act as though you're a climate scientist when your views hold no intellectual weight whatsoever.

I - on the other hand - admit that I'm not a climate scientist
& just seek to show an alternative theory or theories.

For being a humble messenger you have attacked me - abused me -
called me names & continued for 100s of pages.
You even got me banned once when I tried to fight back.

You're nothing but a one eyed trouble maker on this forum &
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Of course, Boobhead has steadfastly, stubbornly refused to argue ONCE with me about the 500 stupid, lying videos he has wasted a vast amount of his life watching.

That is not a suitable person for a Mod here.

I have posted actual evidence pointing out the many, many false claims made in the videos. Boobhead has not refuted a single one of my critiques of the stupid, lying videos.

Bobby—2016 was the hottest year recorded, how can you POSSIBLY think we are in an ice age? Please answer that!
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
As Mod I will be fair and fact based.

I would move the Ice Age thread out of Environment as being nothing more than fairytales. You can tell me where you want me to put it. As Mechanic is the only one here to believe the Dubyne fairy tales I suggest you get me to move it to his ON board.

Or you could ask FD to set up an Ice Age board, I suppose. Why don’t you do that anyway? You can then ban me from that board—I won’t ban anybody from here permanently—permanently and live the dream until even you realise we are not in an ice age.

Sooooo...
according to YOU the Ice Age has nothing to do with the Environment and is a fairytale??

LOL....  You wont ban anyone permanently from here? Grin Grin Grin  Just regularly everytime they post something you disagree with eh? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Of course an Ice Age now is a fairy tale. Don’t you agree, roach? 2016 hottest year yet some think, some how, that we are in an ice age.

You don’t believe that.
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No, I won’t ban anyone for posting stuff to support their point of view.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:39am:
The only reason for not making me Mod here is if FD knows John is coming back.

I don’t think John is coming back—he got sick of the crap Lees constantly posts to obfuscate and bury any interesting material posted that, inevitably, supports AGW.

I won’t let Lees chase ME off.

roach reckons insisting Loser Lees explain his NV thingy is shutting down debate. Nope, but if you advance a proposition you have to be able to argue it. Loser Lees has failed to do so.

Don't lie about what I say.
1/  That automatically stops you from being a fair mod.
2/  That makes you a liar or ignorant... with little ability to comprehend English, which also would disqualify you from being a mod. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:40am:
Looks like roach knows I am the only possible candidate for Mod here.

Not an expert on climatology nevertheless I do have a background in science and so the natural choice for Mod of this scientific board.

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Oh dear, you do have English comprehension problems don't you.

Liar liar pants on fire, no mod job for you boyo. Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #68 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Of course an Ice Age now is a fairy tale. Don’t you agree, roach? 2016 hottest year yet some think, some how, that we are in an ice age.

You don’t believe that.

Oh dear....  wassup....  can't support what you actually say?
Gotta move those goalposts, misquote, misinterpret etc to support your arguments.
Well I don't have to. Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #69 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:57am
 
Not up to you to decide on the new mod.

Your behavior in this thread shows you are unsuitable as Mod.

I *do* have a BSc from Adelaide University. I studied maths, physics, Zoology and geology.
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Reply #70 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:58am
 
So, roach, do you believe that we are in an ice age now?

Simple question. Your answer, if true and fact based, will upset Bobby.

Do you believe we are in an ice age, roach? 2016 hottest recorded year remember.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:57am:
Not up to you to decide on the new mod.

Your behavior in this thread shows you are unsuitable as Mod.

I *do* have a BSc from Adelaide University. I studied maths, physics, Zoology and geology.


Then you should have no problems understanding this.


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OR THIS........................!

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He just says what he wants you to believe without showing any evidence as to why you should believe it.

AGW theory has the evidence—the climbing temperatures and the spectrometry data. AGW is the only theory around that has evidence and makes sense.

Yes it is scary, not so much for us as for our kids and grandkids. I have neither but am still concerned for the world I will leave to the new generation, my nieces and more especially my great nieces/nephews. I cannot see how any parent can not have some concern about an ever–heating planet with extreme heat events, more destructive wildfires, more drought and more rain and floods elsewhere, with sea levels rising meaning floods from storm surges will be bigger and deeper and more destructive.

But a MAN faces up to unpleasant facts and seeks to defeat obstacles, not run away from them like all here—Grendel, lee, Sir Bobby and Ajax are doing.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
AGW theory has the evidence—the climbing temperatures and the spectrometry data.


No. That only shows correlation.
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Reply #75 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
No, correlation would be showing the CO2 and the temperatures climb together.

The spectroscopic evidence shows GHG molecules do block IR from leaving the surface.

That is a spectacular mistake, Loser Lees!
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Reply #76 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
He just says what he wants you to believe without showing any evidence as to why you should believe it.

AGW theory has the evidence—the climbing temperatures and the spectrometry data. AGW is the only theory around that has evidence and makes sense.

Yes it is scary, not so much for us as for our kids and grandkids. I have neither but am still concerned for the world I will leave to the new generation, my nieces and more especially my great nieces/nephews. I cannot see how any parent can not have some concern about an ever–heating planet with extreme heat events, more destructive wildfires, more drought and more rain and floods elsewhere, with sea levels rising meaning floods from storm surges will be bigger and deeper and more destructive.

But a MAN faces up to unpleasant facts and seeks to defeat obstacles, not run away from them like all here—Grendel, lee, Sir Bobby and Ajax are doing.


Then explain this..................!!!!!

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Compared to natural CO2 emissions mans emissions of CO2 are just too small to register.

Notice the sharp rise in fossil fuel CO2 emissions after 2000.

After 2000 fossil fuel emissions were 3 times the amount of fossil fuel emissions in the prior decade to 2000, that is 3 times as much fossil fuel emission went into our atmosphere after 2000 than the decade before 2000.

But the average yearly increase after 2000 just like the decade prior to 2000, average increase in CO2 remains more or less steady at 2.1ppm per year.

Fossil fuel CO2 emissions at 2.3% of the total CO2 natural emissions are insignificant and get lost in the noise.

That's why the average yearly increase of CO2 has remained steady at 2.1ppm per year even though fossil fuel emissions have shot through the roof.

Again your argument is shot down.

Yes fossil fuels emissions contribute but the contribution is small at 2.3% of the total amount of natural CO2 that is emitted.


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Reply #77 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:15pm
 
Glad you admit temperatures are climbing tho.

Going to mention the specific heat of CO2 again?
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
I'll do it.

I am unbiased - fair & impartial.


Bobby would turn it into a gay dating site. Ice cracks would be photoshopped with anal hair.
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Reply #79 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:18pm
 
Ajax, the spectrometry shows the CO2, methane, ozone, nitrous oxide, CFCs etc molecules DO block a lot of IR from leaving the earth.

Talking about CO2 being only a trace gas etc therefor is meaningless.

To some extent it is good that CO2 does that—without it the average temperature of the earth would be like -15°C. But now, even at only 410ppm we have TOO MUCH CO2 in the atmosphere. And that is causing methane to be released from thawed tundra, worsening the warming. All from trace amounts of CO2.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 11:37am:
Where we are:

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Our current emissions trajectory locks Earth into a carbon dioxide level of at least 450 ppm, Ralph Keeling says. And burning fossil fuels at the same increasing rates through 2050 would drive those levels to their highest point in 50 million years, according to an April study in Nature Communications. Add a few more centuries of similar emissions, and carbon dioxide levels rise to those not seen in 420 million years, causing unprecedented sea level rise.

Keeling doesn’t think it’ll come to that. New efficiency standards and cleaner energy are already reducing emissions in the U.S. and other countries. If such efforts register at Mauna Loa, it could show humans still have some control. “It’s been an alarm bell so far — the curve,” Keeling says. “But if we start to take positive steps, it can become a sign of progress and hope.”

However, new research shows that reducing emissions isn’t a complete fix. “If you just stop emitting cold turkey, the temperature drops a little, but it doesn’t drop too much,” says MIT atmospheric scientist Susan Solomon. “The temperature stays almost as hot for 700 years.”

That’s because the carbon dioxide remains trapped in the atmosphere — much of it lingers a millennium later — pumping more and more energy into the ocean. So temperatures stabilize, but the seas keep rising.

This means humans actually have to remove greenhouse gases to reach levels scientists consider safe, roughly 350 ppm. And even short-lived greenhouses gases — methane lasts about a decade — will still cause sea levels to rise for centuries.

The reason is fairly simple. Greenhouse gases trap extra heat in our atmosphere, and oceans suck most of it up. As the warmer water expands, it causes sea levels to rise. And like a hot bath, the ocean must radiate its heat back out — through the atmosphere and into space — for it to cool.

Former NASA scientist James Hansen, now at Columbia University, helped launch climate change into the public sphere with his 1988 testimony before Congress. “[A level of] 450 ppm would guarantee disaster,” Hansen says now. “If you leave it in place long enough, it would guarantee that you do lose the coastal cities.”


http://discovermagazine.com/2017/jul-aug/what-carbon-really-costs

So fossil fuel use is on a downward trajectory. Good. Energy efficiency, the low hanging fruit, can do a lot. Building materials could incorporate locking up carbon (strawbale is the extreme of this: it could be encouraged with design rules etc.

But we need to actually remove CO2. Easy way, plant lots of trees. Bamboo might be better as it is faster growing. Only good if used in permanent structures. Bamboo makes good flooring.

Maybe some chemical engineering? Heartbreaking task to consider: the huge amount of CO2 but algae could be cultured in tanks with air bubbled through so it absorbs the CO2 and turns it into more algae which is eventually turned into biodiesel. Have seen proposals for this, no idea how feasible. Anyway, biodiesel doesn’t keep CO2 out the air.



This was a post I made in another thread here.

I know we face a serious problem. I am, even now, optimistic we can overcome it. But we have to admit we have a problem.
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Reply #81 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Ajax, the spectrometry shows the CO2, methane, ozone, nitrous oxide, CFCs etc molecules DO block a lot of IR from leaving the earth.


Going off on tangents again avoiding the question, if you cannot explain it just say so.

We don't need spectrometry to verify this, it is well known and no one is disputing it, all gases mentioned above are greenhouse gases and we know what they do.

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Talking about CO2 being only a trace gas etc therefor is meaningless.


No its not, its a trace gas because there so little of it in the atmosphere and it accounts for about 3.7% of the greenhouse effect here on Earth.

Humans contribute with their fossil fuel emissions 3% of the CO2 (3.7%) greenhouse effect.

Do you know how small this number is.

Do you really think that the earth is so finely balanced that a small increase in CO2 would destroy all life on Earth.

If this was the case life on earth would have ended a long long time ago.

Water vapour cause 95% of the greenhouse effect here on Earth.

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To some extent it is good that CO2 does that—without it the average temperature of the earth would be like -15°C.


Lets not also forget that today we have some of the lowest amounts of atmospheric CO2 in our history and that it did reach levels of 7000ppm in the past, there was no runaway greenhouse effect back then why should there be one today because we have gone from 280ppm to 400ppm, when we had 7000ppm in the past.

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But now, even at only 410ppm we have TOO MUCH CO2 in the atmosphere. And that is causing methane to be released from thawed tundra, worsening the warming. All from trace amounts of CO2.


Rubbish you don't know what you're talking about.

You seem to parrot what the oligarchies hysterical media is spewing out to the general public in order for them to be able to form a $7 trillion dollar per annum carbon derivatives market so they can further exploit nations and individuals.

They want us to pay for the air we breathe.
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Reply #82 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:56pm
 
No! The CO2, the CH4, the O3, the N2O all block infrared from leaving the earth, causing the earth to warm. Does not matter that they are tiny concentrations, they are STILL heating the earth!

I don’t give a flying fvvck about “oligarchies” and all that crap! We need to stop emitting CO2 and N2O, we need to act to remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

That is the problem,not your mumbo jumbo about taxing the air we breath!

You seem to care more about your wallet than about the lives your kids and grandkids will have! That is a cruel assessment but it is a true assessment.

The Gillard ETS redistributed all the funds raised by the ETS, unless you are filthy rich you would not have been out of pocket by it. But it sent a signal that people and businesses and governments responded to and in so doing reduced Australia’s emissions. Emissions have increased under abbott and turdfull.

abbott rescinded the ETS—our electricity prices are now HIGHER than under the Gillard ETS!
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Reply #83 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
abbott rescinded the ETS—our electricity prices are now HIGHER than under the Gillard ETS!


Higher than they were under Giilard? So there was to be no increase in price under Gillard? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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What does that even mean, Loser Lees?

Ajax complains about the ETS “taxing the air we breath” yet now we pay MORE for electricity than we did when the ETS was in place.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
No! The CO2, the CH4, the O3, the N2O all block infrared from leaving the earth, causing the earth to warm. Does not matter that they are tiny concentrations, they are STILL heating the earth!


Where did I dispute that greenhouse gases contribute to warming the Earth....???

BTW the only heat source we have is the sun, the sun is responsible for heating the Earth, as a result of this warmth carbon sinks emit natural CO2 into the atmosphere.

CO2 on its own without heat from the sun cannot do anything.

And we also know through physics that once the saturation point of CO2 (logarithmic effect) has been reached, it doesn't matter how much more CO2 is released into the atmosphere it will not contribute to any more warming.

You should be worried about the oligarchies lies because it affects you your nieces and nephews and all humans on this planet.

You're letting a hand full of greedy men tax the world on the air we breathe.

So financial exploitation sits ok with you then....?!?!?!
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Reply #86 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:35pm
 
Ajax, I refer you to the planet Venus. Venus is hotter’n hell because of CO2.

It is a bit closer to the sun, true, but it is also covered with clouds that reflect a lot of the sunlight, yet—it is hotter’n hell. It is so bloody hot because of CO2.

So—CO2 can still heat the globe for a long time yet!

You are wrong Ajax, you need to face up to what is happening and do what you can to act against it, in your personal life, in making others see what is happening, etc.

A MAN does not avoid facing unpleasant facts.
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Reply #87 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
Ajax, I refer you to the planet Venus. Venus is hotter’n hell because of CO2.

It is a bit closer to the sun, true, but it is also covered with clouds that reflect a lot of the sunlight, yet—it is hotter’n hell. It is so bloody hot because of CO2.

So—CO2 can still heat the globe for a long time yet!

You are wrong Ajax, you need to face up to what is happening and do what you can to act against it, in your personal life, in making others see what is happening, etc.

A MAN does not avoid facing unpleasant facts.


Venus's atmosphere is 55.8 times denser than Earths.

Atmospheric Pressure on  Earth = 1 bar

Atmospheric Pressure on  Venus = 93 bar

Density of air on Earth = 1.2kg/mł

Density of air on Venus = 67kg/mł

67 / 1.2 = 55.8

It wouldn't matter which gas ruled Venus.


The logarithmic effect of CO2


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Throw more carbon up there and most of the extra gas is just “unemployed” molecules.


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Reply #88 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 3:17pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Ajax, the spectrometry shows the CO2, methane, ozone, nitrous oxide, CFCs etc molecules DO block a lot of IR from leaving the earth.

Talking about CO2 being only a trace gas etc therefor is meaningless.

To some extent it is good that CO2 does that—without it the average temperature of the earth would be like -15°C. But now, even at only 410ppm we have TOO MUCH CO2 in the atmosphere. And that is causing methane to be released from thawed tundra, worsening the warming. All from trace amounts of CO2.

Oh dear
Doesn't that make it, 0.041% of the atmosphere?
Hasn't CO2 been much much higher and still supported life on the planet?
Wassup Chicken Little....
Worried that the Correlation=Causation AGW Theory is wrong?
Don't worry...  it is wrong.
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Oh and Monk, if "A MAN doesn't avoid unpleasant facts"  you must be a microbe.

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Funny how a microbe c look so big eh?
That's like the graphs you keep posting with out of scale axes.
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Somebody with some knowledge of science is needed to get Environment back on track.

We could have some gardening threads.

But at present no one wants to post here and who the hell could blame them?
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Monk is certainly good at cleaning up boards...he just deletes the entire content when he has a girly tanty. Grin Grin Grin
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Don’t you know, Aussie, that FD DOES NOTHING until snippy has spoken? NOTHING!


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Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
Somebody with some knowledge of science is needed to get Environment back on track.



That would seem to exclude you. Making Sch!t up is not part of the scientific method.
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Why do you give a flying ferk?  Have you ever made even one substantive Post (relevant to the Environment) here, or you here just to be a little smart arse bitch?



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Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Monk is certainly good at cleaning up boards...he just deletes the entire content when he has a girly tanty. Grin Grin Grin
You should give him Relationships while you're at fd. Grin


Why do you give a flying ferk?  Have you ever made even one substantive Post (relevant to the Environment) here, or you here just to be a little smart arse bitch?



Skippy wants your job and he'll get it.   Grin Grin Grin Grin


And that's why 'nobody loves' you Bobby.  Far worse really, they don't even dislike you.  There is no emotion of any kind heading your way.

I get the best of all Worlds from the lovers to the haters.  You get nothin' Bobby.

Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #98 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:48pm
 
Booby is a blob.
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Reply #99 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
And that's why 'nobody loves' you Bobby.  Far worse really, they don't even dislike you.  There is no emotion of any kind heading you way.



Wow.Sounds reminiscent of what I posted about DRAH.

They do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #100 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:12pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
And that's why 'nobody loves' you Bobby.  Far worse really, they don't even dislike you.  There is no emotion of any kind heading you way.



Wow.Sounds reminiscent of what I posted about DRAH.

They do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Sorry to disappoint, lee.  That will be the very first post made by you that I've ever read.  I have no interest (or knowledge) in the topics which attract you.

So, back in your box....there was no imitation of you.
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Reply #101 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
skippy. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Monk is certainly good at cleaning up boards...he just deletes the entire content when he has a girly tanty. Grin Grin Grin
You should give him Relationships while you're at fd. Grin


Why do you give a flying ferk?  Have you ever made even one substantive Post (relevant to the Environment) here, or you here just to be a little smart arse bitch?



Skippy wants your job and he'll get it.   Grin Grin Grin Grin


And that's why 'nobody loves' you Bobby.  Far worse really, they don't even dislike you.  There is no emotion of any kind heading your way.

I get the best of all Worlds from the lovers to the haters.  You get nothin' Bobby.

Grin Grin Grin




Don't deflect Aussie -
this is not about me -
it's about your job.   

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Reply #102 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:45pm
 
I made it about you, more effectively than your pissy attempt to make it about me/Relationships/job.
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Reply #103 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 10:54pm
 
Aussie,
read.

skippy. wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 4:58pm:
Monk is certainly good at cleaning up boards...he just deletes the entire content when he has a girly tanty. Grin Grin Grin

You should give him Relationships while you're at it fd.
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Reply #104 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:26pm
 
monk does not need another board- he will  just eff it all up AGAIN- Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #105 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:41pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:26pm:
monk does not need another board- he will  just eff it all up AGAIN- Grin Grin Grin Grin

Very odd, Agnes.  You have made many (recent) comments about how well he would do if he was Mod here.
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Reply #106 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:57am
 
oh well.

JM shouldn't you exercise a little more circumspection if you want to be a MOD?

cheers and goodnight.
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Reply #107 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:01am
 
Too true, Emma I will exercise much more circumcision circumspection when I am Mod.  Grin
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Reply #108 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 11:02am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 11:31am:
Where have I ever posted anything from the MSM, Ajax?

You talk about higher concentrations of CO2 in long ago geological eras. I posted long extracts of a scientific paper that answered your question.

Sorry you will not admit AGW is happening but happening it is. The temperature series are all trending up, have done since the mid 1800s. The mechanism of AGW has been demonstrated as true by spectroscopic evidence: molecules of GHGs do absorb photons (or rays if you like) of infrared radiation coming from the surface of the earth, re-emit them but when they re-emit them they are as likely to re-emit them downwards as upwards. If they re-emit them upwards another molecule of a GHG might absorb it and so on.

As a result, spectrometry shows that at the frequencies corresponding to the various GHGs less infrared radiation is detected. That means that the GHGs in the atmosphere act like a blanket over the earth, preventing heat from leaving and so warming the earth.

So the theory—everything in science is a theory (laws of science just summarise but do not explain things)—of AGW has the evidence to back it up.

Nothing BUT AGW can explain why the world is heating—and heating up it is! 2016 was the hottest year recorded, 2017 is also a hot year with March this year the second hottest ever recorded.



You do not deserve to be a mod here JM- after what you have done to your own deserted "forum" and how you have lied and trolled against me with Aussie the last 2 weeks- and not to mentiond how you killed off Fermnts last time you had a sub forum- you simply don't deserve one- sorry you - dont get my vote you are an hysterical bitter and quite insane-


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Reply #109 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:39pm
 
JM says -"Lees thinks climate change is summer giving way to winter!"

"Climate, sometimes understood as the "average weather,” is defined as the measurement of the mean and variability of relevant quantities of certain variables (such as temperature, precipitation or wind) over a period of time, ranging from months to thousands or millions of years. "

https://public.wmo.int/en/about-us/FAQs/faqs-climate

Seems like the World Meteorological Organisation thinks it also. Fancy climate changing over months. Wink
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Reply #110 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 3:35pm
 
This thread seems to have morphed into a tit for tat bashfesh rather than the original intent.  Locked
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