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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #75 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #76 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

I don't hate anyone, Homo.

Especially not you.

Even on my worst day, you make me look like Einstein.

So, what did you lose (apart from this argument)?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #77 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

I don't hate anyone, Homo.

Especially not you.

Even on my worst day, you make me look like Einstein.

So, what did you lose (apart from this argument)?

you've shown your colours Pecca. I don't need to write one more thing about you. You've said it all.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #78 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

I don't hate anyone, Homo.

Especially not you.

Even on my worst day, you make me look like Einstein.

So, what did you lose (apart from this argument)?

you've shown your colours Pecca. I don't need to write one more thing about you. You've said it all.

What was your loss, Homo?

You didn't say.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #79 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

I don't hate anyone, Homo.

Especially not you.

Even on my worst day, you make me look like Einstein.

So, what did you lose (apart from this argument)?

you've shown your colours Pecca. I don't need to write one more thing about you. You've said it all.

What was your loss, Homo?

You didn't say.

I wouldn't dare talk about loss with you. You'll make a joke out of it.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #80 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you. If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me. So show your face when talking to me or f orf. Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

No wonder you're so unhappy all the time.

So you expect skinheads to fall within your parameters?

Not at all. Where have i ever suggested that i expect that?

well don' get upset at swastikas and I won't get upset at the burqa?

Who's asking for swastikas to be banned, Homo?

Take your time ...

fair enough. I'll carve one on your girly forehead.

So, that's two terms you don't understand:

1. tolerance

2. clothing

Ever thought of going to Mt Druitt TAFE, Homo?

He overlooked "choice" also.

What sort of person thinks that physically assaulting someone, by using a knife to carve a symbol into their forehead, is the same as someone wearing a piece of clothing?

I mean, seriously!

What sort of person mocks a posters loss?

What have you lost, Homo?

Apart from this argument, that is.

You've shown your true colours pecca. You are just your typical spiteful hater. You just have more properties and a better job.

I don't hate anyone, Homo.

Especially not you.

Even on my worst day, you make me look like Einstein.

So, what did you lose (apart from this argument)?

you've shown your colours Pecca. I don't need to write one more thing about you. You've said it all.

What was your loss, Homo?

You didn't say.

I wouldn't dare talk about loss with you. You'll make a joke out of it.

Homo: you are the one who mentioned it, not me.

So, why?

Why did you mention your loss, and what is it?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #82 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 1:23pm:

It always amazes me just how many "men" are frightened by a piece of women's clothing.

Gotta laugh Grin

Not ME
But I'm used to ALL sorts of religious "trimmings"
Ive worked in retail, in a heavily Muslim populated suburb of Melbourne'

I've dealt with Muslim mothers and daughters - some veiled and some not
It's a personal gesture to God - and is in not enforced by ANYONE
It can be compared to the way some Christan women CHOOSE to wear crucifixes around their necks - and some Christian women DON'T

It's all really a matter of familiarising yourself with different religious and cultural practices

There's a few Islamophobes on Ozpolitic that could benefit from that familiarisation

rubbish.

Were your EARS burning ?

I rest my case

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #83 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Yeah, strike a blow for social cohesion.

Can we then refuse to have any dealings with them, in shops, offices, schools, while they hide their faces? For them to have freedoms in our societies and but everyone else's response to them is regulated and the 'wrong' behaviour criminalised - that's not not on.

People must have the right to refuse to deal with them. Freedom and democracy would be served only if people could freely choose how they respond to niqabis, including ostracising them.

Exactly right, my good sir. You have hit the nail on the head.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #84 - Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:13am

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:53pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

And do you seriously think that women aren't restricted in what they can and cannot wear in "your" culture? You know in some workplaces, women are expected to wear makeup, yes?

Behaviour in this culture is to be judged by the standards and expectation of this culture, not by every strange and alien one. If you are in Australia, accept the behavioural norms of Australia. Islam has no overriding claim on your behaviour while you are here. It CERTAINLY doesn't have an overriding claim on MY behaviour towards you.

If you wish to prefer Islamic codes of behaviour here, I do not want to accept them as being also thereby applicable to me.

So show your face when talking to me or f orf.

Your submission to Islam does not demand that I also submit to Islam

. F that. (but that is exactly the gambit claim, of course).

Muslim women have absolutely NO right to expect that everyone else must accept nd accommodate their covering up. How bloody arrogant can they be? And how thick and uncritical can YOU be, mother??

You are now agitating for Muslim womens' human right to self-abnegation, you silly goose.

So, you expect people to adhere to ideology within your parameters.

What the hell does that mean and in what way does it relate to what I just posted?

The truth of it is that you simply have no idea how to address my point of freedom going BOTH ways other than making some idiotic remark about my parameters for ideology - as if it wasn't YOU who brought up Muslim women's freedom to wear what they want as a non-ideological point.

You have no idea about what the hell is swirling around in your own muddled head. It's not critical thinking, not even uncritical thinking. It's thick, mawkish mush.

If they can express their intolerant and inhuman, misogynistic culture (which you so ardently defend) by covering their faces when interacting with me, I can also express my culture and refuse to interact with them in expression of my free and humane and enlightened culture. If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?

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Reply #85 - Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:19am

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

You do understand that the reasons women given for covering in Australia do not align with the reasons you apply to them, yes?

What possible reason can they have for pretending that they are still back in the old Hellholeistan they come from?

Don't they have an obligation to be aware and respectful of the society they CHOSE to live in? Nobody forced them to come to Australia.

If I went to Hellholeistan would they let me carry on as a Westerner, ignoring all their customs and social norms?? Would they?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #86 - Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:22am

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

cods: do you want these masks banned?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/1412294881305_wps_21_Dana_jpg.jpg

Medical. Not ideological, Turdy McTurdface.

Hold on a minute, bucko.

You and your fellow Islamophobes frequently cite "security reasons" for banning Islamic face coverings.

Those burns masks cover the entire face, and there's no way of knowing who's under there.

Why doesn't that concern you?

The same could be said of how much make-up some women wear. They are completely unrecognisable from their natural faces.

So the niqab is now no different to being a burn victim or wearing make up.

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #88 - Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:28am

Frank wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

cods: do you want these masks banned?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/03/1412294881305_wps_21_Dana_jpg.jpg

Medical. Not ideological, Turdy McTurdface.

Hold on a minute, bucko.

You and your fellow Islamophobes frequently cite "security reasons" for banning Islamic face coverings.

Those burns masks cover the entire face, and there's no way of knowing who's under there.

Why doesn't that concern you?

The same could be said of how much make-up some women wear. They are completely unrecognisable from their natural faces.

So the niqab is now no different to being a burn victim or wearing make up.

How do you know that someone wearing a surgical face mask is a burns victim?

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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #89 - Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:31am

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Jul 14^th, 2017 at 11:13am:

If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?

Excellent and very logical point that will not be answered.

No, it's not an excellent point at all.

It's childish nonsense.

"If they don't do it, why do I have to?"

Moreover, the vast majority of Muslims DO accept Australian social norms in Australia.

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