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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #30 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 10:18pm duplicate post deleted.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #31 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 10:19pm USA data. Not much data available for Australia since Turnbull sacked all the climate scientists. Birmingham hot days increased from around 7 per year to around 21 per year. That's a threefold increase and the number is still rising at about the same rate of 3.5 more hot days per decade.
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Reply #32 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 11:49pm

And many vignerons are finding warmer climates are affecting their grapes.

Wineries now have to manage carefully during vintage because grapes are reaching the winery at nearly the same time. Grapes in subregions are all ripening together.

Hence Italian varieties being planted, hence mainland wineries ody thabplanting vineyards in Tassie etc.

Anyone who wants to can see the effect of long term warming. I suggest anybody really interested in how AGW is hitting the man on the land watch Landline on the ABC while it is still being produced. Vignerons and wheat growers are two particular parts of primary production but others are noticing how the warmer weather affects their farms. No wonder the Murdoch grub now the head of the ABC wants to cancel Landline!

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #33 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:07am Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 11:49pm: And many vignerons are finding warmer climates are affecting their grapes. Check Kapunda temps.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #34 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:09am No vines around Kapunda. But I note you are once again forgetting to take the long view re climate. You are so transparent in your desperation, Lees. Quite funny in a sad sort of way.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 155768 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #35 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:34am Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 9:11pm: Plenty of info in the threads on this board. Hmm. All you had to say was you didn't know. "The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)." Where did they get that number from, though?
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Online Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 26327 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #36 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:06am 21 days out of 90 above 95 degrees? Wow! Rockhampton had 2 months above 95 degrees just this past summer. And you find temperatures that hot in Rockhampton on average.
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Reply #37 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:34am:

All you had to say was you didn't know.

"The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)."

Where did they get that number from, though?

"The 30-year period of reference was set as a standard mainly because only 30 years of data were available for summarization when the recommendation was first made."

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/wcp/ccl/guide/documents/Normals-Guide-to-Climate-1...

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Reply #38 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:43am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:06am:

21 days out of 90 above 95 degrees? Wow! Rockhampton had 2 months above 95 degrees just this past summer. And you find temperatures that hot in Rockhampton on average.

UnsubRocky is thick as well as obese.

It's one location in the USA and the rate of increase is 3.5 days per decade. There are much hotter locations in USA, like Arizona.

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Reply #39 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:55am

lee wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:34am:

All you had to say was you didn't know.

"The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)."

Where did they get that number from, though?

"The 30-year period of reference was set as a standard mainly because only 30 years of data were available for summarization when the recommendation was first made."

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/wcp/ccl/guide/documents/Normals-Guide-to-Climate-1...

Hmm.

That's very interesting.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #40 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:06pm 30 years should also be long enough.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #41 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:14pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:06pm: 30 years should also be long enough. So that's your opinion; mine differs. And my having a different opinion to you is apparently bizarre.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #42 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:17pm Yeah I know Lees. When 30 years shows a warming trend ==> more than 30 years is required. When there is a tiny downturn in the warming trend ==> you say it disproves AGW. Transparently desperate Lees! Funny but pathetic.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: USA is burning up as temperature records fell Reply #43 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm Unforgiven wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 10:18pm: duplicate post deleted. How very decent of you.
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Reply #44 - Jul 13^th, 2017 at 3:08am

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:06am:

21 days out of 90 above 95 degrees? Wow! Rockhampton had 2 months above 95 degrees just this past summer. And you find temperatures that hot in Rockhampton on average.

UnsubRocky is thick as well as obese.

It's one location in the USA and the rate of increase is 3.5 days per decade. There are much hotter locations in USA, like Arizona.

They have 7 days out of 90 of hot weather in one decade. Then 21 days out of 90 for another of hot weather. And we are supposed to claim that this is evidence of temperatures heating up? But not just typical variances in weather for a selective decade.

In Rockhampton, I would constantly complain about hot summer weather being in excess of 40 degrees for up to 2 weeks. This was as a child. As an adult, I rarely see the temperatures go above 40 degrees very much. But I do see many 35 to 40 degree weeks-on-end maximums, like this past summer. Can I conclude that temperatures are going down? Such as 4 times this summer being above 40 degrees, compared to 15 days being above 40 degrees in 1990?

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