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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #165 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:40pm You expect weather and climate to be ever smoothly trending???
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #166 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:43pm Close your eyes Monk.... like you do whenever this graph is shown...
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #167 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm Wattsup is a denialist website that is often wrong. You should stick to NASA, NOAA, MetOffice (UK), BuMet, CSIRO etc.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #168 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:40pm: You expect weather and climate to be ever smoothly trending??? No but YOU ignore those facts and appear to think and believe it will always trend upwards regardless of facts and history.
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Re: The greenhouse effect
Reply #169 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:47pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

You expect weather and climate to be ever smoothly trending???

No but YOU ignore those facts and appear to think and believe it will always trend upwards regardless of facts and history. Cheesy

I'll repeat the same question I ask everyone who produces that graph grendel, what does it actually show?

E.g. what is the y axis?

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #170 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:48pm Did you see what I said about noisy weather record?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #171 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:49pm
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #172 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:50pm
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Reply #173 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:05pm

Found a hadcrut graph for 2015-2017 and it certainly doesn't show that this years temps will be another high or record high.

Unfortunately cant post it due to some glitch.

But I found this article instead.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/06/bombshell-study-temperature-adjustments-a...

Bombshell study: Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Government Climate Data

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A new study found adjustments made to global surface temperature readings by scientists in recent years “are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data.”

“Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming,” according to a study published June 27 by two scientists and a veteran statistician.

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In fact, almost all the surface temperature warming adjustments cool past temperatures and warm more current records, increasing the warming trend, according to the study’s authors.

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #174 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:07pm lee and grendel think they are con artists because they can make their kids cry "Dad, ...why did you vote for crapper-net and pretend you got rich with paper profits ???"
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #175 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:09pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm: Wattsup is a denialist website that is often wrong. You should stick to NASA, NOAA, MetOffice (UK), BuMet, CSIRO etc. LOL Don't be goober all your life.
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #176 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:25pm Grendel wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:09pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm: Wattsup is a denialist website that is often wrong. You should stick to NASA, NOAA, MetOffice (UK), BuMet, CSIRO etc. LOL Don't be goober all your life. Grendel knows nothing!
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #177 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:26pm Next time he will quote that renowned climatologist JoNova
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #178 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:43pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:26pm: Next time he will quote that renowned climatologist JoNova You could learn a lot from that site. She's not a climatologist BTW. But many experts do have articles there. You should try listening to an honest expert for a change. Neither Mann or Hansen fill the bill.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: The greenhouse effect Reply #179 - Jul 25^th, 2017 at 4:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 3:46pm: Wattsup is a denialist website that is often wrong. One of these days you might want to post your proof, or not. Without proof it is just a meaningless assertion. Like a lot of what you post.
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