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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21658 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #75 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 6:59pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 6:56pm: Big drop in IR photons reaching space in the 600–780 wavelength. The graph is in wavenumbers. You are too stupid for words. Bye.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #76 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:00pm Wave numbers = wavelength. Bye? You will be back, to obfuscate any new fact raised. Poor desperate Lees.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21658 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #77 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:08pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:00pm: Bye? You will be back True. to correct you. Wavenumber is the inverse of wavelength.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #78 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:15pm Well hello Lees! Have a nice holiday?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #79 - Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:18pm Oh, and: Quote: There is: we can measure the wavelengths of long-wave radiation leaving the Earth Bye again?? Not only that, the units of wavelength are cm^-1 which looks like wavelengths to me, not the inverse.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #80 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:05am LOL I love how you regurgitate stuff Monk. Learn all that science whilst running a "brewery" did you? I'd love to have you actually tell us where you got your degree in Physics or just exactly what scientific qualifications you actually have. My bet is none. But hey I'm willing to be wrong.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #81 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:18am I have a Batchelor of Science in Geology from Adelaide University. I have never “run” a brewery. I have brewed at home, mash brewing not kits or extract.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #82 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 10:19am Oh and before I forget. wavelength and wavenumber are related, but they are not the same. From memory, one can be calculated from the other and as the wavelength grows shorter, the wave number becomes larger. Not sure what you meant in your "inverse" quote. Ok I await your academic CV.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21658 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #83 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:35am Wavenumber = 1/wavelength. Wavelength in cm or mm, wavenumber in cm^-¹. But maths are his strongsuit.
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Reply #84 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:48am

And. . .?

Just a desperate distraction from the fact we see the GHGs block IR photons from escaping to space. But that is what the graph shows, and so does any spectrometry done from a satellite.

Greenhouse gases block heat, IR, from leaving the surface of the earth and escaping to space. That is why the globe is heating.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21658 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #85 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:02pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:48am: And. . .? Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 7:00pm: Wave numbers = wavelength. Just shows JM, More Bluff, Bluster and Bullshit from you.
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Reply #86 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 11:48am:

And. . .?

Just a desperate distraction from the fact we see the GHGs block IR photons from escaping to space. But that is what the graph shows, and so does any spectrometry done from a satellite.

Greenhouse gases block heat, IR, from leaving the surface of the earth and escaping to space. That is why the globe is heating.

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Reply #87 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:10pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

Greenhouse gases block heat, IR, from leaving the surface of the earth and escaping to space. That is why the globe is heating.

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Wrong. By what method does it prevent heat escaping to space? Detention? When/if it strikes a CO2 molecule it will be refracted. When/if it strikes another CO2 molecule it will be refracted again. It will still escape the CO2 molecule. It is not a prison.

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Reply #88 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:14pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

So you have no idea how to test for natural variation. You have no idea of statistics or climate.

So it is just a way for you to avoid admitting that AGW is real.

So worked out a framework of how “natural variability” can be tested, Desperate Lees?

Natural variability implies==> over to you Desperate Lees.

So the alternate hypothesis:

H1: is what, Desperate Lees? To test H1 we derive the null hypothesis

H0: is what, Desperate Lees? It needs to be a mathematical relationship that can be tested statistically.

You have been pushing “Natural Variability” for ages, Desperate Lees, often saying, wrongly, that Natural Variability is the “null hypothesis.”

So—got anything yet or is “natural variability” just a way you can avoid admitting to yourself that the climate is warming? I suspect that is the case.

Some considerations: what drives the NV? What period is it? Any sort of equation that could show the NV? Or is it all just bullshit?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21658 Gender:	Re: Just took delivery of. . . Reply #89 - Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:16pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 12:14pm: often saying, wrongly, that Natural Variability is the “null hypothesis.” And of course you have a reference for that? Or is it merely another of your personal opinions, which carry no weight?
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