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Reply #135 - Aug 5th, 2017 at 8:19pm
 
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Reply #136 - Aug 5th, 2017 at 8:36pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
Ah no...
Fear doesn't enter into it.


You on the other-hand live in fear, n'est ce pas. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #137 - Aug 5th, 2017 at 8:43pm
 
1.2°C.

Sea levels rising.

Farmers being hit by AGW.

The sooner we act the surer the result and the lower the cost in dollars and lives.
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Reply #138 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 11:51am
 
Got a book for you Monk...

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BTW Monk, on a daily basis temps change more than 1.2 degrees...  Chicken Little or what?
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Reply #139 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:39am
 
"...the Earth was evidently coming out of a relatively cold period in the 1800s so that warming in the past century may be part of this natural recovery."

        Dr. John R. Christy
        (leading climate and atmospheric science expert- U. of Alabama in Huntsville)
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Reply #140 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:51am
 
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Little Ice Age—no extra ice.

Probably it was just the Gulf Stream stopped.

What bullshit! What absolute bullshit!
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Reply #141 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:52am
 
1. The idea that man-made pollution is responsible for global warming is not supported by historical fact. The period known as the Holocene Maximum is a good example-- so-named because it was the hottest period in human history. The interesting thing is this period occurred approximately 7500 to 4000 years B.P. (before present)-- long before humans invented industrial pollution.

2. CO2 in our atmosphere has been increasing steadily for the last 18,000 years-- long before humans invented smokestacks

Both temperatures and CO2 have been on the increase for 18,000 years. Interestingly, CO2 lags an average of about 800 years behind the temperature changes-- confirming that CO2 is not a primary driver of the temperature changes.

Incidentally, earth's temperature and CO2 levels today have reached levels similar to a previous interglacial cycle of 120,000 - 140,000 years ago. From beginning to end this cycle lasted about 20,000 years. This is known as the Eemian Interglacial Period and the earth returned to a full-fledged ice age immediately afterward.

3. Total human contributions to greenhouse gases account for only about 0.28% of the "greenhouse effect".

Approximately 99% of the "greenhouse effect" is due to natural causes -- mostly water vapor and traces of other gases, which we can do nothing at all about. Eliminating human activity altogether would have little impact on climate change.

4. If global warming is caused by CO2 in the atmosphere then does CO2 also cause increased sun activity?  Nigel Calder illustrated that variations in sun activity are generally proportional to both variations in atmospheric CO2 and atmospheric temperature.

Put another way, rising Earth temperatures and increasing CO2 may be "effects" and our own sun the "cause".

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Reply #142 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:53am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:51am:
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So you've got no proof its not true eh....  very well...

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Reply #143 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 10:54am
 
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Reply #144 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:01am
 
Give us a link for increasing CO2 in our atmosphere over the last 18,000 years.

1850—280ppm

2017—410ppm

46% increase.

Stop with the junk science roach.
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Reply #145 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:32am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:01am:
Give us a link for increasing CO2 in our atmosphere over the last 18,000 years.

1850—280ppm

2017—410ppm

46% increase.

Stop with the junk science roach.

I'm happy for you to provide that information oh BSc Geology....
Off you toddle then...  I'll just sit here and wait.
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Reply #146 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:34am
 
So, as I expected, no increase in CO2 over the 18000 years before 1850.
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Reply #147 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:36am
 
Quote:
In prehistoric times, during the Permian, in the Palaeozoic Era, for example, the concentration of Carbon Dioxide dropped below 210 ppmV. Throughout the Permian Period plant and animal species diverged and diversified as never before. Dinosaurs prospered and predominated over all the other orders of vertebrates. Coniferous plants first appeared in the Permian. The change of atmospheric temperature at the time of the Permian was around 10 °C. By comparison, the current change of global temperature is only 0.52 °C while the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide is 385 ppmV. If the global temperature is dependent on CO2, then the change of temperature at present would be around 10 °C or higher, as it was during the Permian Period.

From the early Triassic to the middle Cretaceous, the concentration of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide was similar to its current density. From the late cretaceous to the early Miocene, the concentration climbed above 210 ppmV. During the Holocene period, the concentration has oscillated from 210 ppmV to 385 ppmV.

It is possible that the concentration of atmospheric CO2 will increase normally in the course of the next 50 million years to 1050 ppmV or 2500 ppmV.

We have also observed that the concentration of atmospheric CO2 increases several centuries after glaciations. Perhaps this is due to the fact that most plants perish at sub-zero temperatures, and plants are organisms that capture Carbon Dioxide from their surroundings to make food.

Scientists have also observed that the concentration of atmospheric CO2 increases during periods of warming. However, an increase in temperature always precedes an increase in carbon dioxide, which generally occurs decades or centuries after any change of temperature. We have not observed an increase in the concentration of Carbon Dioxide to have preceded a period of warming. This latter phenomenon occurs because when oceans absorb more heat from an increase in the amount of direct solar irradiance incident upon the Earth's surface, they release more Carbon Dioxide molecules into the atmosphere. Nevertheless, most drastic increases in CO2 concentration occur decades or centuries after the oceans have warmed up. For example, the present increase of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide was caused by an extraordinary increase in solar activity in 1998 which warmed up the El Niño South Atlantic Oceanic Oscillation.

These increases in concentration of atmospheric CO2 offer optimal conditions for the development and evolution of living beings on Earth. Human beings should adapt to these natural changes by means of science and technology.


I'm pretty sure there is a graph somewhere Monk which in fact shows the Ordovician Era with a CO2 level of 2240ppm it seems the Earth survived that, no tipping point, no Earth turning into Venus, no alarmists running around like headless chooks.
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Reply #148 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
In the Ordovician the sun was not as bright as it is today.

Go away roach, you are just an ignoramus with NOTHING to offer. Just*Go*Away*
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Reply #149 - Aug 7th, 2017 at 11:52am
 
Here ya go Monk...  something else you can ignore.

https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/the-holocene-context-for-anthropogeni...

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