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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #15 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:40am Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 8:59am: And the use of coal to generate power just decreased by another 2%. And the price of power is going up. How strange.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 24019 ACT Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #16 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:43am My tip is JooLiar and all the other RWNJ hypocrites on here have solar panels on their roofs.
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Reply #17 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:52am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

My tip is JooLiar and all the other RWNJ hypocrites on here have solar panels on their roofs.

Personal power units are excellent for those that own them, they are fkking useless for pretty much everyone else, especially the ones who fund the subsidies for them.

If you want one great, but no-one else should be funding it for you.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #18 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 3:48pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:43am: My tip is JooLiar and all the other RWNJ hypocrites on here have solar panels on their roofs. What is a RWNJ?
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macman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2435 australia Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #19 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:19pm Have a look in the mirror.
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #20 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:30pm macman wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:19pm: Have a look in the mirror. Holey sh1t someone call Emergency Services.
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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90781 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #21 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:39pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 10:32am: Sunlight and a fresh breeze. And a truly free press. And an educated electorate. And anything after 1850. And. . . You reek o' Stockade there, buddy.... is that a new perfume?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: Does Juliar use free renewable sunlight energy ? Reply #22 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 6:39pm macman wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 4:19pm: Have a look in the mirror. Ah well in that case - I don't have solar. I guess that makes me a non-hypocrite. Another of Redmond's tips down the drain. I hope you didn't bet on his tip.
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Reply #23 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 7:00pm

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 12:02am:

LostNail,

sounds like U have hit the end of the road and your last resort is to ATTACK THE POSTER!!!!

Never mind the TRUTH but it is hard to argue when you have no argument.

I realize it will be all Greek to a non-technical body like you but the luminous output is the same if the voltage and frequency are the same.

Well do you use free renewable sunlight energy or not ?

Seems you and bighole have trouble understanding the question or have trouble answering it Cheesy

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Reply #24 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 7:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

My tip is JooLiar and all the other RWNJ hypocrites on here have solar panels on their roofs.

Personal power units are excellent for those that own them, they are fkking useless for pretty much everyone else, especially the ones who fund the subsidies for them.

If you want one great, but no-one else should be funding it for you.

Like the diesel rebate because fossil fools are sooooooooo cheap Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 8:06pm

The SA Govt has gone for the much more practical hydrogen power for its buses.

It panders for the few electric risk of being stranded cars by putting in a few charging points.

It will be a tragic shock to the Greenies that Whyalla steel works is taken over by London instead of being closed.

But their problem with their erratic unstable very expensive unreliable power system still remains for a Liberal Govt to fix.

Wonder where Whyalla Steel Works gets its power from ? Diesel ? Whyalla Steel is making the railway tracks for the ADANI Coal Mine in Nth Qld.

Fast-track to a low-carbon highway as State Government announces hydrogen bus trial
Luke Griffiths The Advertiser JUNE 23, 2017 11:04AM

Fuel cell bus on the exposition

ADELAIDE is set to become home to six hydrogen-fuelled buses as part of a $9 million commitment that the State Government hopes will achieve its goal of becoming the world’s first carbon-neutral city.

It will spend almost $5 million in the coming financial year and $8.2 million over four years on constructing a hydrogen production facility, a refuelling station, and a trial that will initially see six buses hit the road.

The “Hydrogen Roadmap” — as the State Government has labelled it — will further position South Australia as a leader in the transition to a low-carbon future, according to Treasurer Tom Koutsantonis.

“By positioning ourselves as a leader in that transition and embracing new technology, we can ensure we are at the forefront of attracting the investment and job opportunities these new technologies bring,” he said.

On the low-carbon theme, $200,000 will be spent installing electric car charging facilities for 10 parking spaces in the Adelaide CBD, plus a further $75,000 for electric vehicle recharging stations at yet-to-be-announced locations.

Half a million dollars will go towards a partnership with Adelaide City Council that supports the installation of battery systems to help manage the demand for power from businesses located in city laneways.

Mr Koutsantonis said

the state’s new grid-scale battery,

announced in March as part of the State Government’s $550 million energy plan, was on track to be up and running by December 1. A short-listing process has taken place, although the Government has not revealed exactly how many remain in the race to build and manage the battery.

The Government reaffirmed

its commitment to building a $360 million, 250MW gas-fired power plant,

which would likely take the number of new generators of that kind in SA to three.

Earlier this month, AGL announced it would build a 210MW facility at Torrens Island, while it is understood that

the Korean consortium that was last week named as the preferred bidder for Arrium

has committed to building a similar sized operation adjacent to the Whyalla steelworks.

The Government has said that its gas plant will only be switched on in times of emergency.
“This is a significant investment we had to make in the interest of SA households and businesses,” Mr Koutsantonis said. “We couldn’t wait any longer.”

Mr Koutsantonis said the sale of Arrium would be finalised “very soon” and that State Government funding was dependant on the Korean consortium, headed by Newlake Alliance, retaining the company’s entire Whyalla workforce of more than 2500 people.

luke.griffiths@news.com.au

http://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/fasttrack-to-a-lowcarbon-highway...

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Reply #26 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Geez won't the Greenies be spitting chips now that Whyalla Steel is saved as they would have been hoping it would be closed as part of their purge of all industry in SA.

Just imagine all the CO₂ that would be emitted and the load on the shaky power system.

Locals 'bound up' in Whyalla steelworks
Source: AAP 2 HOURS AGO

Former steelworker turned MP, Eddie Hughes says like many families in Whyalla his has been bound up in the Arrium steelworks.

For Eddie Hughes Arrium's Whyalla steelworks have played a big part in his life - from a young boy, through to adulthood and his time as a father.

Now the state Labor MP for the area, Mr Hughes previously worked as a steel seamer at the plant.

His father had also worked as a fitter in the machine shop and his mother as a cleaner at the coke ovens.

Even today, his son still works for Arrium.

"Like a lot of people in Whyalla, we've just been bound up in the steelworks," he said.

"It has been what has given us our opportunities in life."

So it's little wonder Mr Hughes is very happy to see the deal signed to sell Arrium's entire operations, including the Whyalla facility, to billionaire industrialist Sanjeev Gupta.

The deal is expected to secure about 1500 direct jobs at Arrium in Whyalla and another 1500 in the local community.

Mr Hughes said uncertainty over the past 15 months had caused "all sorts of pain" with some businesses closing and others just hanging on.

"For the Whyalla people, they were just over it," he said.

"They just wanted a sign off with a new owner and it looks like we've got a new owner that is willing to invest in modernising the steelworks.

"And because we're a tough and resilient community, this news today and what is going to flow from this news, I believe we are going to bounce back quickly."

Whyalla Mayor Lyn Breuer said the town had been through a "terrible time" since Arrium was placed in administration.

"There has been a lot of uncertainty, a lot of doom and gloom," she said.

"For quite some time people have felt very uncomfortable."

Ms Breuer said it was something of a surprise that GFG Alliance had emerged as the successful bidder but she believed the group had a strong record in turning companies around.

"We're very comfortable they'll be able to do the same for us," she told ABC radio.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/07/05/locals-bound-whyalla-steelworks

Arrium Steel Works at Whyalla

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Reply #27 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 8:39pm

Looks like the solar/battery powered bus are already operating in South Australia and are actually here today unlike the never ever hydrogen bullshit which is always 20 years away Cheesy

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http://reneweconomy.com.au/adelaide-creates-worlds-first-solar-powered-public-tr...

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Adelaide creates world’s first solar-powered public transport system

Many local communities are looking at ways that they can incorporate green technology into their city’s municipal infrastructure. One impressive success story is the Tindo electric bus in Adelaide. Although many cities have experimented with using hybrid or electric technology in their public transport systems, this vehicle is the world’s first 100% solar-powered electric bus; and not only is it powered by the sun, but this service is also offered free of charge.

tindobusNamed after an Aboriginal word for “sun”, the Tindo was designed to be part of the Adelaide Connector Bus service, a free service run by the City Council. What makes the bus unique from other solar-powered vehicles is that there aren’t any solar panels physically on the vehicle. Instead, the car received electric power from solar panels located on the city’s central bus station.

These provide enough energy to allow the bus to run freely from the city centre and the North Adelaide, and will also offer air conditioning and WiFi to its 40 passengers.

The Council commissioned this bus from a New Zealand company called Designline International, as part of a wider green initiative.

Adelaide residents have shown a keen interest in reducing emissions, with many seeking out hybrid cars like the MitsMirubishi age, or choosing to go electric, while many residents already choose to carpool or bicycle on their commute as well. In the City Council’s Strategy Plan for 2012-2016, further plans to make the streets more sustainable are outlined. This includes a more comprehensive network of footpaths and bike trails to enable commuters to get around without a car.

The latest figures from 2010 showed that 36% of the city’s carbon emissions came from transportation. Although residents are turning to hybrids like new Ssangyong cars and the ever-popular Prius to reduce personal emissions, the city’s public transportation network has helped further reduce emissions. The Tindo has no combustion engine, which makes it a zero emissions vehicle. Its regenerative braking system also saves an additional 30% of energy consumption. In its first year alone it’s estimated that the solar-powered bus saved over 70,000 kg of carbon emissions and 14,000 litres of diesel.

Due to its unique solar photovoltaic charging system and ability to travel over 200 kilometres between recharges, this vehicle has received a great deal of attention from the wider green community. It’s been featured in the Solar City Convention Spirit Festival, Global Green Challenge, and Heritage Bus Tour. Although solar busses can be found in Austria, China, Wales, and India, they have yet to become a widespread public transport solution. Of these various solar busses, the Tindo is still the only one which is completely powered by the sun.

The Tindo’s success shows that public transportation can be further improved to reduce a community’s carbon emissions while improving the residents’ way of life at the same time. Its adoption has helped make Adelaide one of Australia’s most green-friendly cities, an attitude mirrored by its residents.

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Reply #28 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm

LostNail is getting quite excited what with having a go at an annoying poster who shatters his treasured notions and dredging up some ancient stuff from 12 September 2013 about a trial of electric buses that obviously wasn't a success.

The problem with all these electric thingos is the long time to recharge whereas the more modern hydrogen powered buses are much more convenient as they can be refueled in a few minutes just like LPG.

The hydrogen can be produced by electrolysis using the otherwise fairly useless windymills.

And the ever present problem of renewable rubbish is the very high cost as there has to be an ever present backup and so the power is being generated TWICE at TWICE the cost.

Not to mention the short life and constant costly maintenance of BOTH solar AND windymills and the shaky erratic power produced.

Solar on the simple domestic home, with some lithium batteries on the wall of the house just waiting to catch fire, works simply because there is always the mains backup for those overcast rainy days.

But I should no better than to try to explain technical stuff to a tech abhorring Greenie person.

LostNail, keep on fossicking thru the piles of rubbish on the Greenie Propaganda Sites, U never know what you might find.

But bear in mind that the REAL AGENDA 2030 of the Greenies is to trash Australia and reduce it to a primitive basket case just like SA.

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Reply #29 - Jul 5^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

LostNail is getting quite excited what with having a go at an annoying poster who shatters his treasured notions and dredging up some ancient stuff from 12 September 2013 about a trial of electric buses that obviously wasn't a success.

The problem with all these electric thingos is the long time to recharge whereas the more modern hydrogen powered buses are much more convenient as they can be refueled in a few minutes just like LPG.

The hydrogen can be produced by electrolysis using the otherwise fairly useless windymills.

And the ever present problem of renewable rubbish is the very high cost as there has to be an ever present backup and so the power is being generated TWICE at TWICE the cost.

Not to mention the short life and constant costly maintenance of BOTH solar AND windymills and the shaky erratic power produced.

Solar on the simple domestic home, with some lithium batteries on the wall of the house just waiting to catch fire, works simply because there is always the mains backup for those overcast rainy days.

But I should no better than to try to explain technical stuff to a tech abhorring Greenie person.

LostNail, keep on fossicking thru the piles of rubbish on the Greenie Propaganda Sites, U never know what you might find.

But bear in mind that the REAL AGENDA 2030 of the Greenies is to trash Australia and reduce it to a primitive basket case just like SA.

What's with you libbos that you always have to force everyone to take it up the arse at the fool bowser ?

Why on earth would you create hydrogen (an inefficient process) when you can directly charge batteries ? Cheesy

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And how do you apply regenerative braking to a hydrogen vehicle and recapture lost energy due to braking ? A stupid idea which will never take off for obvious reasons.

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