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Reply #15 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:27pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 1:27pm:

The hospital staff do absolutely nothing about it, because of the violence.

Smokers don't like being told they're breaking the law, and they often get very violent.

If any patient is caught smoking on the hospital grounds, they should be discharged immediately and escorted off the premises by the police.

No exceptions.

This is where you Far Left wankers get all fired up with righteous zeal. It's the same with the Global Warming bed-wetters.

Those smokers sitting in front of the No Smoking signs are perfectly aware that what they're doing effects no one but themselves, and that the notice was put there by wankers on a mission to stamp their feet and pout because some people like to do what they themselves disapprove of.

Meddling socialists is what we're witnessing here.

And then these righteous doctors will drive around in cars that spew carcinogenic gases.

The hypocrisy sucks the oxygen out of the air.

I'm no far lefty & it's a matter of decency......

your above response is spurious.

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Reply #16 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

If smoking outdoors is so critical to public health, then why isn't smoking banned by government decree.

"From 22 September 2010, smoking was banned in outdoor eating areas in Western Australia, other than in 'smoking zones' in licensed premises."

"Smoking in a vehicle while a person under 17 years of age is present was banned in Western Australia from 22 September 2010."

"Amendments to the Tobacco Products Control Act that came into effect on 22 September 2010 banned smoking between the flags at patrolled beaches; at outdoor eating areas (other than designated smoking zones at licensed premises); within 10 metres of children's playground equipment; and in vehicles when a person under the age of 17 years is present."

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Reply #17 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

They're deliberately harming themselves, and then expect to be treated in the the public hospital for free.

Damned right, aaaaasshooole!

You bring me a doctor who has no vices.

Bring me a doctor who doesn't screw around with cocaine, pethedine tablets, spirits, rich foods, and high-cholesterol meals that all conspire to send him into medical care WAY earlier than otherwise would be the case?

And then there's lack of exercise and obesity that brings these moralising hypocrites crashing down.

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Reply #18 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

Alinta wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 1:43pm:

"Eastern Health is totally tobacco-free. Under the Tobacco Act 1987 smoking is prohibited within four metres of an entrance to all Victorian public hospitals and registered community health centres. Smoking is not allowed in the buildings or on the grounds of any of our sites, including walkways, entrances and car parks."

All fag-arsed pretentious nonsense.

If smoking outdoors is so critical to public health, then why isn't smoking banned by government decree.

Why is Turnbull having a plebiscite on the sanctity of anal sex instead of asking the public to decide if smoking should be entirely banned as so many illicit drugs are?

The relevance that has to the subject matter is what is pretentious.

It wasn't outdoors perse ... it was near the entrance to the foyer.

With doors constantly opening & closing ... or if open having a breeze blowing the stench & fumes into the foyer should not be happening.

You ought buy yourself an enema kit .... you're full of shyte.

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Reply #19 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

They're deliberately harming themselves, and then expect to be treated in the the public hospital for free.

Damned right, aaaaasshooole!

You bring me a doctor who has no vices.

Bring me a doctor who doesn't screw around with cocaine, pethedine tablets, spirits, rich foods, and high-cholesterol meals that all conspire to send him into medical care WAY earlier than otherwise would be the case?

And then there's lack of exercise and obesity that brings these moralising hypocrites crashing down.

All spurious supposition.

Do they indulge in their vices in areas where it's prohibited?

Naff orf.

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Reply #21 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:41pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

All spurious supposition.

Do they indulge in their vices in areas where it's prohibited?

Naff orf.

Gregg was saying that smokers cost a lot of money in medical treatment, and I countered with the fact that smoking is not the only unhealthy vice that eventually brings people like doctors to needing treatment.

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Reply #22 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

All spurious supposition.

Do they indulge in their vices in areas where it's prohibited?

Naff orf.

Gregg was saying that smokers cost a lot of money in medical treatment, and I countered with the fact that smoking is not the only unhealthy vice that eventually brings people like doctors to needing treatment.

Smoking is totally unnecessary.

That's the difference.

It serve no purpose whatsoever, other than to deteriorate one's health.

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Reply #23 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

[quote author=Gnads link=1498614760/15#15 date=1498624023]

I'm no far lefty & it's a matter of decency......

your above response is spurious.

I confess I was wearing spurs while I wrote it.

Smoking use to be described as "The working man's pleasure".
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I thought that was having a beer

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Reply #24 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:53pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

The relevance that has to the subject matter is what is pretentious.

It wasn't outdoors perse ... it was near the entrance to the foyer.

With doors constantly opening & closing ... or if open having a breeze blowing the stench & fumes into the foyer should not be happening.

Give me a break, you precious dears!

"Oh! I can smell some cigarette smoke! Quick! I'm wilting!

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Reply #25 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:55pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

The relevance that has to the subject matter is what is pretentious.

It wasn't outdoors perse ... it was near the entrance to the foyer.

With doors constantly opening & closing ... or if open having a breeze blowing the stench & fumes into the foyer should not be happening.

Give me a break, you precious dears!

"Oh! I can smell some cigarette smoke! Quick! I'm wilting!

"Secondhand smoke causes early death and disease in children and in adults who do not smoke.

"The more secondhand smoke to which you are exposed, the higher your risk of disease.

"There is no level of exposure to secondhand smoke that is free of risk."

http://www.quit.org.au/about/frequently-asked-questions/faqs-passive-smoking/dis...

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Reply #26 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 3:02pm

"Secondhand smoke (SHS) has the same harmful chemicals that smokers inhale. There’s no safe level of exposure for secondhand smoke (SHS)."

"Secondhand smoke is known to cause cancer. It has more than 7,000 chemicals, including at least 70 that can cause cancer.

"SHS causes lung cancer – even in people who have never smoked."

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/tobacco-and-cancer/secondhand-smoke....

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Reply #27 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 3:12pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

I confess I was wearing spurs while I wrote it.

Smoking use to be described as "The working man's pleasure".
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I thought that was having a beer

Wrong. It was smoking. You could smoke at work but you couldn't drink beer.

Alcohol consumption by FAR out-ranks smoking as the greatest financial liability upon the government's medical and welfare systems, and is the cause of gazillions of lost working hours whereas smoking doesn't account for even a single day off from work per year.

I don't like the preachy, finger-wagging, moral pretentiousness of the hypocrites who personally subscribe to the alcohol industry whilst at the same time presuming to look down their noses at someone having a quiet smoke in the open air.

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Reply #28 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 3:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

"The more secondhand smoke to which you are exposed, the higher your risk of disease.

"There is no level of exposure to secondhand smoke that is free of risk."[/i]

http://www.quit.org.au/about/frequently-asked-questions/faqs-passive-smoking/dis...

Pig's arse!

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Reply #29 - Jun 28^th, 2017 at 3:19pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

smoking doesn't account for even a single day off from work per year.

Pig's arse!

"Health experts have warned that 11 million work days are lost each year as a result of sick days linked to smoking."

And that's just England.

"Smoking currently costs the economy in England a massive £13 billion a year, with businesses losing over 11 million days of productivity each year due to smoking-related sick days, which alone costs £1 billion a year."

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