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Massive crack in Larsen C Ice shelf (Read 3118 times)
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Reply #30 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 7:08am
 
Yup:

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The Larsen A and B ice shelves, which were situated further north on the Antarctic Peninsula, collapsed in 1995 and 2002, respectively.

“This resulted in the dramatic acceleration of the glaciers behind them, with larger volumes of ice entering the ocean and contributing to sea-level rise,” said David Vaughan, glaciologist and director of science at British Antarctic Survey.

“If Larsen C now starts to retreat significantly and eventually collapses, then we will see another contribution to sea level rise,” he added.

Big icebergs break off Antarctica naturally, meaning scientists are not linking the rift to manmade climate change.

The ice, however, is a part of the Antarctic peninsula that has warmed fast in recent decades.

“In the ensuing months and years, the ice shelf could either gradually regrow, or may suffer further calving events which may eventually lead to collapse – opinions in the scientific community are divided,” Professor Luckman said.

“Our models say it will be less stable, but any future collapse remains years or decades away.”


http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/07/13/huge-iceberg-breaks-off-antarcti...

Probably the melting of the rest of Larsen C will accelerate due to the warmer waters now lapping parts of Antarctica. Sea level rise will accelerate.
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Re: Massive crack in Larsen C Ice shelf
Reply #31 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
"Glacier flow and ice loss in an important region of Antarctica has increased only marginally in recent decades, a satellite study has found."

http://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2017/satellites-show-acceleration-of-antarctic-glaciers

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Reply #32 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
And Larsen C will soon be added to the iceshelves that disappeared allowing warm waters to melt glaciers where they reach sea level.

That is interesting, that Antarctica is already losing net ice. I think tho that nobody knows for sure yet.
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Re: Massive crack in Larsen C Ice shelf
Reply #33 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:59am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:49am:
And Larsen C will soon be added to the iceshelves that disappeared allowing warm waters to melt glaciers where they reach sea level.



Oh. what is the temperature of the warm Antarctic waters?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:49am:
That is interesting, that Antarctica is already losing net ice. I think tho that nobody knows for sure yet.



Where did you find that? Citation please.
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Reply #34 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm
 
How can a fact be...  "nobody knows for sure yet"?

Oh right that is Monk's criteria for the truth. Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm
 
That is what scientists working in this field were saying this morning on ABC News (formerly ABC24.)

Anybody with a brain would see that would happen. Larsen A & B are gone and the glaciers that formerly fed the shelf have accelerated now they are calving directly into the sea. The same thing happened with Greenland (Oceans Melting Greenland program.)

Just the application of common sense. Of course, rightwingers hate change and do not want to admit to reality but the situation is ice shelves are going, glaciers are accelerating and so the sea level is rising faster and faster.
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Reply #36 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
the glaciers that formerly fed the shelf have accelerated now they are calving directly into the sea. The same thing happened with Greenland (Oceans Melting Greenland program.)


Wow. Glaciers found a way around feeding directly into the sea. Smart glaciers.

You know an ice shelf is ice floating on the sea; don't you? Eventually it breaks off.
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Reply #37 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:30pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:56pm:
I thought that this story was of environmental interest


Why? A floating ice shelf is not going to do anything to sea level.

Do you even know what a floating ice shelf is?
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Reply #38 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:32pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 11:46am:
"Glacier flow and ice loss in an important region of Antarctica has increased only marginally in recent decades, a satellite study has found."

http://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2017/satellites-show-acceleration-of-antarctic-glaciers

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Reply #39 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:36pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
the glaciers that formerly fed the shelf have accelerated now they are calving directly into the sea. The same thing happened with Greenland (Oceans Melting Greenland program.)


Wow. Glaciers found a way around feeding directly into the sea. Smart glaciers.

You know an ice shelf is ice floating on the sea; don't you? Eventually it breaks off.

Yes, eventually ice shelves do break off: but at what rate?
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Reply #40 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:45pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Yes, eventually ice shelves do break off: but at what rate?


Depends a lot on the sea. Is it rough? Remember the 2012 Arctic lowest Ice ever was because of a storm.

Think of a number. Wink
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Reply #41 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Yes, eventually ice shelves do break off: but at what rate?


Depends a lot on the sea. Is it rough? Remember the 2012 Arctic lowest Ice ever was because of a storm.

Think of a number. Wink

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Reply #42 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 4:20pm
 
Interesting bit—Larsen A & B have not reformed. Does look like warming in Antarctica.
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Reply #43 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 4:31pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 4:20pm:
Interesting bit—Larsen A & B have not reformed. Does look like warming in Antarctica.

Apparently the circulating current around Antarctica has tightened thus changing the atmospherics that intrude the Australian continent but that is all I know!

Hopefully the water hemisphere isn't changing too much or we are in big big trouble: so much that I would expect global panic by now!

The northern hemisphere will be the first port of call!
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Reply #44 - Jul 13th, 2017 at 4:39pm
 
Yes we know things are changing—the belt of cyclones and anticyclones that waters the southern half of the continent is moving closer to the Pole.

Somewhere in this board, buried by Lees not wanting that to be seen, are studies showing that warmer water is reaching the Antarctic coast, probably related to Larsen A&B disappearing and not reforming and the faster pace of icemelt. Larsen C is much bigger and when the rest of it goes icemelt and consequent sea level rise will accelerate.
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