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Reply #150 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 6:30pm

moses wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 6:02pm:

I know it's hard for you after 17 years of being a liar.

A frequent claim by you, Moses. Funny how you have refused everytime my offer to allow you to quote back your proof that I have, "knowingly told an untruth". Tsk, tsk, it appears the only liar is you. You've broken the fourth commandment yet again, Moses. What will your Lord say? Roll Eyes

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However normal people don't regard kindness, good will and equality as rape.

Today, normal people call a dick a dick and a vagina a vagina. The Bible uses all sorts of euphemisms for the sexual organs and the act of procreation. Appears you refuse to accept that. Must make your sex life interesting, Moses. Tsk. tsk. Roll Eyes

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How many years do you have to lie in order to get your gold watch for apologising for islamic terrorism?

I have provided you with ample opportunity to prove I have "apologised for Islamic Terrorism", Moses. You have failed to do so. Tsk, tsk, more breaking of the fourth commandment. Naughty, naughty, what will your Lord say? Roll Eyes

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Reply #151 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 6:33pm

Frank wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Sex is a real problem in The Bible, Moses. Some people try and use verses to proscribe pre-marital sex, some try and say it says nothing about pre-marital sex. Paul is pretty emphatic in how believes women are second-class citizens and should be subservient to their menfolk. Rape in marriage appears to be allowed, according to those versus. You appear to condone domestic violence including it seems, rape in marriage, Moses. Typical of a middle-aged Christian zealot. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

While Islam is all about gay sex and promiscuity and equal rights for women, isn't it, Braindead?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren, when are you going to stop your silly ad hominem attacks? They simply prove that you have lost the debate. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this? Reply #152 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 8:04pm Oh dearie dearie me bwian still obfuscating and posting SILLY AD HOMINEM ATTACKS tsk tsk tsk...
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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #153 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm

A liar with a 17 year track record wrote Reply #150 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

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A frequent claim by you, Moses. Funny how you have refused everytime my offer to allow you to quote back your proof that I have, "knowingly told an untruth". Tsk, tsk, it appears the only liar is you. You've broken the fourth commandment yet again, Moses. What will your Lord say?

Today, normal people call a dick a dick and a vagina a vagina. The Bible uses all sorts of euphemisms for the sexual organs and the act of procreation. Appears you refuse to accept that. Must make your sex life interesting, Moses. Tsk. tsk.

I have provided you with ample opportunity to prove I have "apologised for Islamic Terrorism", Moses. You have failed to do so. Tsk, tsk, more breaking of the fourth commandment. Naughty, naughty, what will your Lord say?

Oh gee all that to try and push your loony statements that kindness charity and equality really mean rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

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Reply #155 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

moses wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:10pm:

A liar with a 17 year track record wrote Reply #150 - Yesterday at 6:30pm

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A frequent claim by you, Moses. Funny how you have refused everytime my offer to allow you to quote back your proof that I have, "knowingly told an untruth". Tsk, tsk, it appears the only liar is you. You've broken the fourth commandment yet again, Moses. What will your Lord say?

Today, normal people call a dick a dick and a vagina a vagina. The Bible uses all sorts of euphemisms for the sexual organs and the act of procreation. Appears you refuse to accept that. Must make your sex life interesting, Moses. Tsk. tsk.

I have provided you with ample opportunity to prove I have "apologised for Islamic Terrorism", Moses. You have failed to do so. Tsk, tsk, more breaking of the fourth commandment. Naughty, naughty, what will your Lord say?

Oh gee all that to try and push your loony statements that kindness charity and equality really mean rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

Never. You have thus far failed to prove that I have "knowingly told an untruth", Moses.

You refuse to accept that language and it's meaning has changed since the time The Bible was compiled. It is why you have the Aramaic, Greek, Early English, King Charles, King James, and modern English translations of The Bible - the language is subtly different in each, depending on who and when it was translated. Each uses similar but different words for the same things. Yet, even in the modern translations, they skirt around clear references to sex, sexual organs and what they did with them. Tsk, tsk. You really are rather foolish, Moses. Until you produce proof, it is you who is the liar, not me. Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this? Reply #156 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:29am Grendel wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 3:18pm: Never admitted to telling a lie.... Never admitted to telling a lie.... Never ever eh bwian.... Yet you are a self-deluded, lying hypocrite....
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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #157 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

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Never. You have thus far failed to prove that I have "knowingly told an untruth", Moses.

You refuse to accept that language and it's meaning has changed since the time The Bible was compiled. It is why you have the Aramaic, Greek, Early English, King Charles, King James, and modern English translations of The Bible - the language is subtly different in each, depending on who and when it was translated. Each uses similar but different words for the same things. Yet, even in the modern translations, they skirt around clear references to sex, sexual organs and what they did with them. Tsk, tsk. You really are rather foolish, Moses. Until you produce proof, it is you who is the liar, not me.

Gee more fallacies from you.

Translations into another language are made so that people from different countries with different languages can understand them.

Nothing more nothing less.

Please tell us when kindness goodwill and equality really meant rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #158 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm

moses wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

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Never. You have thus far failed to prove that I have "knowingly told an untruth", Moses.

You refuse to accept that language and it's meaning has changed since the time The Bible was compiled. It is why you have the Aramaic, Greek, Early English, King Charles, King James, and modern English translations of The Bible - the language is subtly different in each, depending on who and when it was translated. Each uses similar but different words for the same things. Yet, even in the modern translations, they skirt around clear references to sex, sexual organs and what they did with them. Tsk, tsk. You really are rather foolish, Moses. Until you produce proof, it is you who is the liar, not me.

Gee more fallacies from you.

Translations into another language are made so that people from different countries with different languages can understand them.

Nothing more nothing less.

Please tell us when kindness goodwill and equality really meant rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

Tell us, Moses, why is the King James version of The Bible considered the one which was "divinely inspired"? Was it because of it's content or it's language? If it was it's content, why weren't previous versions of The Bible considered "divinely inspired"? Further, if The Bible itself is "divinely inspired", who can have the authority to order it's translation, except God? Tsk, tsk, questions which I expect you'll avoid. Roll Eyes

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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #159 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

moses wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

A proven liar waiting on his gold watch wrote: Reply #155 - Yesterday at 5:24pm

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Never. You have thus far failed to prove that I have "knowingly told an untruth", Moses.

You refuse to accept that language and it's meaning has changed since the time The Bible was compiled. It is why you have the Aramaic, Greek, Early English, King Charles, King James, and modern English translations of The Bible - the language is subtly different in each, depending on who and when it was translated. Each uses similar but different words for the same things. Yet, even in the modern translations, they skirt around clear references to sex, sexual organs and what they did with them. Tsk, tsk. You really are rather foolish, Moses. Until you produce proof, it is you who is the liar, not me.

Gee more fallacies from you.

Translations into another language are made so that people from different countries with different languages can understand them.

Nothing more nothing less.

Please tell us when kindness goodwill and equality really meant rape.

Never knowingly told a lie?

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

Tell us, Moses, why is the King James version of The Bible considered the one which was "divinely inspired"? Was it because of it's content or it's language? If it was it's content, why weren't previous versions of The Bible considered "divinely inspired"? Further, if The Bible itself is "divinely inspired", who can have the authority to order it's translation, except God? Tsk, tsk, questions which I expect you'll avoid. Roll Eyes

One perfect example is using the translation LORD GOD for the YHWH in Hebrew in standard Bibles, and using God for Elohim or El. Of course, the exception to this is the Jehovah Witnesses' Bible, which uses the name Jehovah.

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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #160 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

For example? Give us an example or two.

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Reply #161 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:32pm

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

For example? Give us an example or two.

Please refer to my example above.

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Reply #162 - Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... Roll Eyes

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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #163 - Jun 19^th, 2017 at 8:37pm

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That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

Tell us, Moses, why is the King James version of The Bible considered the one which was "divinely inspired"? Was it because of it's content or it's language? If it was it's content, why weren't previous versions of The Bible considered "divinely inspired"? Further, if The Bible itself is "divinely inspired", who can have the authority to order it's translation, except God? Tsk, tsk, questions which I expect you'll avoid.

Divinely inspired?

I'm under the impression that it's a very accurate translation of the original Greek writings.

I 'm also under the impression you're floundering, as you try to give credence to your absurd statements that, kindness compassion and equality, really mean rape.

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Re: I wonder how the Islamophobes will deny this?
Reply #164 - Jun 19^th, 2017 at 9:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19^th, 2017 at 12:18am:

Frank wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 6:31pm:

That is the ostensible reasoning for a translation, Moses. However, the Christian Church(es) have often change the wording to "make it clearer" to it's recipients. In doing so, they have subtly changed the meaning of what they are translating. It is a common problem with the translation of language and one thing most professional translators must be careful of. Does the Church(es) care about that? It appears not.

For example? Give us an example or two.

Do your own research, Soren. It might actually help you to understand what I am saying for a change. Tsk, tsk, I don't know why I bother really... Roll Eyes

Do my own research to know that you are lying??

I have done my own research and so I am calling you an ignorant liar. The assertion you have made, highlighted above, is a complete and utter Brian Munchausen lie and deception.

Prove that you are not a liar. You can't.

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