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Hate- why do muslims hate
May 28^th, 2017 at 6:37pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/why-isis-hate-you-reasons-8533563

An ISIS propaganda rag revealed the top six reasons why the group despises Westerners just months before the Manchester Arena terror atrocity.

The article, titled 'Why We Hate you and Want to Fight You' emerged last summer, less than a year before Salman Abedi blew himself up at the arena.

Abedi's sister, Jomana, has claimed her brother carried out the attack against Ariana Grande fans on Monday night in “revenge” for US airstrikes in Syria.

The 18-year-old sparked outrage after telling the Wall Street Journal: “I think he saw children - Muslim children - dying everywhere, and wanted revenge.

“He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted to revenge. Whether he got that is between him and God.”

We all want revenge against someone for some reason- but rarely do we see aggreived young pp of any nationality our there blowing themselves up with radical senseless acts of revenge- most pp are rational- why are these pp not- what breeds the hate so visceral it takes over their very lives?

Lets talk about not just imagined hate but real hate

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #1 - May 28^th, 2017 at 6:50pm

Agnes, Tony Blair has his hand up.

Tony Blair was warned that Iraq invasion would increase the risk of terror attacks.

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/23/british-intelligence-warned-tony-blair-of-ma...

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FORMER BRITISH PRIME Minister Tony Blair has yet to say anything about Monday’s heinous, nihilistic suicide bombing at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England. According to current reporting, the attack has been claimed by ISIS and was carried out by a 22-year-old man born in Manchester to Libyan refugees.

But when Blair does speak, we can be certain he won’t mention one key fact: Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the U.S. and U.K., he was forcefully and repeatedly warned by Britain’s intelligence services that it would lead to exactly this type of terrorist attack — and he concealed these warnings from the British people, instead claiming the war would reduce the risk of terrorism.

We know this because of the Chilcot Report, the seven-year-long British investigation of the Iraq War released in 2016. The report declassifies numerous internal government documents that illustrate the yawning chasm between what Blair was being told in private and his claims in public as he pushed for war.

On February 10, 2003, one month before the war began, the U.K.’s Joint Intelligence Committee — the key advisory body for the British Prime Minister on intelligence matters — issued a white paper titled “International Terrorism: War With Iraq.”

It began:

The threat from Al Qaida will increase at the onset of any military action against Iraq. They will target Coalition forces and other Western interests in the Middle East. Attacks against Western interests elsewhere are also likely, especially in the US and UK, for maximum impact. The worldwide threat from other Islamist terrorist groups and individuals will increase significantly.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #2 - May 28^th, 2017 at 6:55pm They hate modernity, it frees their children and their women.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #3 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:01pm My take is that the militant arm of Islam want it to rule the world. That's what all the ISIS videos say. De-stabilize countries, turn the Muslim populations against the host countries and eventually install fundamental Islam.
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Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm

Well hypothetically lets say that Syria is the super power in this world and Iraq is also a super power while Kuwait is for both their lap dog.

Now some supposed aussie terrorists went over there and destroyed their twin towers.

Since that day Syria with the help of Iraq and Kuwait have been dropping bombs on Australia to get rid of the terrorists, you and I have seen our beloved ones die right before our eyes, we have been displaced from our homes, we cannot get fresh water and food.

Everyday life is a struggle, would you and I or anyone not become like them and harbour anger and hatred for these nations that for the last 15 years have brought war to our door step front yard or whatever.

We would be no different to them, I don't know if we would have suicide bombers but I'm sure we could have one or two kamikazes.

If your mother and father were killed right before your eyes and your children executed by rebel mercenary gangs the super powers have sent into Australia to fight the Australian armed forces

Can you start to get the picture...............!?!?!?

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #5 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:07pm Can you start to get the picture No, and if you can you are a sick PHuk
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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #6 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Well hypothetically lets say that Syria is the super power in this world and Iraq is also a super power while Kuwait is for both their lap dog.

Now some supposed aussie terrorists went over there and destroyed their twin towers.

Since that day Syria with the help of Iraq and Kuwait have been dropping bombs on Australia to get rid of the terrorists, you and I have seen our beloved ones die right before our eyes, we have been displaced from our homes, we cannot get fresh water and food.

Everyday life is a struggle, would you and I or anyone not become like them and harbour anger and hatred for these nations that for the last 15 years have brought war to our door step front yard or whatever.

We would be no different to them, I don't know if we would have suicide bombers but I'm sure we could have one or two kamikazes.

If your mother and father were killed right before your eyes and your children executed by rebel mercenary gangs the super powers have sent into Australia to fight the Australian armed forces

Can you start to get the picture...............!?!?!?

Iraq had a war with Iran in the 80's that killed a million people. That part of the world is always having war. It's not just about that.

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Reply #7 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm

miketrees wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:07pm:

Can you start to get the picture

No, and if you can you are a sick PHuk

am I now,

easy to pass judgement in a first world country behind the safety of your computer aint it.

If your conscience cannot recognise what these people are going through then I have nothing more to say to you.

What happened in Manchester these people live on a day to day basis.

Until we recognise that, they will always hate us.

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #8 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm These extremists hate: 1) the freedom of the individual; 2) the liberation of women; 3) religious pluralism; 4) our high standard of living; 5) strong government and civil institutions.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 10958 Australia Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #9 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:15pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:10pm: Iraq had a war with Iran in the 80's that killed a million people. That part of the world is always having war. It's not just about that. Do you know who was responsible for that war....??? and who put Hussien in that position......???
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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #10 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

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Reply #11 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #12 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #13 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

It hasn't mate. The Muslim world has been war riddled for hundreds of years.

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Reply #14 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

It hasn't mate. The Muslim world has been war riddled for hundreds of years.

Yes I agree this is true BUT only because they have oil and only because the west has meddled in their affairs imo.

They might still have had wars against each other but if the world leaders instead of fueling the conflict demanded peace I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad as it is today.

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