Just thought this might be worth a mention. Donald Trump has scored a 110 Billion dollar Defence Contract for the U.S. with Saudi Arabia

It will create thousands of new jobs in the defence industry in the U.S.

Couldn't see a Barak Obama or a Hillary Clinton for that matter pulling off something like that

Interesting to note that Saudi Arabia treated Trump like an incoming hero

Just an observation. No one else here seems to have to have the balls to comment on this good news story for Trump and the U.S.

How in the name of the wide world of sports would I know?

How about, defence STUFF

What does this military deal include?

It's fairly comprehensive — it includes tanks, combat ships and missile defence systems, as well as radar, communications and cybersecurity technology.

The New York Times is also reporting that the deal includes the sale of precision-guided munitions, which the Obama administration had stopped because it was worried they would be used to bomb civilians in Yemen.

The United States is Saudi Arabia's main military supplier.

As the conflict drags on with no end in sight, the only clear winners have been hunger and death. Yemen was one of the most food-insecure and water-scarce countries in the world well before this latest conflict. Adding a brutal war to the mix is pushing the country into catastrophe. Both sides bear responsibility here. The behavior of the Saudi coalition gets a lot more press: It has bombed humanitarian warehouses, medical clinics, schools, bridges along key humanitarian aid routes, commercial food and water facilities, water infrastructure, and several of the ports used for humanitarian imports. And despite U.S. pressure, the Saudis have shown little concern for the civilian impact of their operations, even to the point of famously bombing a widely attended funeral in Sanaa, killing more than 100 people. But the Houthis deserve their share of blame as well, for frequently obstructing humanitarian agencies’ activities, operating poorly controlled militia roadblocks to harass and delay humanitarian movements, and maintaining a brutal, inhumane siege on the city of Taiz.

The results for Yemen’s people are all too predictable. Amidst a crowded field of global crises, Yemen takes the prize for the largest food security crisis in the world, with 14 million people food insecure (roughly half the population) and as many as two million in pre-famine conditions. Recent U.N. surveys have found that half the country’s population is borrowing money to cover basic food needs — an untenable situation when food prices are rising and economic livelihoods are collapsing. Malnutrition has reached critical levels and has spiked by a third in just the past year. The World Health Organization has warned that the war has left Yemen’s health system close to collapse, with only 45 percent of facilities fully functional and drug availability declining by 70 percent. And degraded water systems have left humanitarians struggling to contain a resurgent cholera outbreak that is spreading beyond control.

The dunce is in the house

Yes let's arm the Saudis to the teeth and let them get stuck right in and f....k those bastards over...Can't wait!

Going for the sympathy vote ...so early too. Pretty f....g pathetic, I'm not making light of the photo; just your piss ant tactics in throwing something like that up

For your information there are countless millions of poor bloody kids like this but that photo got f...l all to do with this discussion

The towel heads have been at each other for centuries

The biggest mistake the west made was to get involved

red baron wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:42pm:


Perhaps they can deliver some poor starving wretches to Red Baron for his action.

Here's one for you Red Baron:

https://theferret.scot/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Yemen6.jpg

Unforgiven wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 5:47pm:


I thought that the christian churches were taking care of them???

So Trump is just an Establishment shill after all, eh? Imagine what Trump would make of Obama doing such a deal. One thing's clear: we no longer wonder why the Saudis were off Trump's list of Musel enemies.

Trump is in deep with the Saudis. There's the property deals in the gulf, the oil shieks in Trump Tower, and the millions in Trump Saudi debt.

Now watch as Trump's friends go into business in defence contracts.

Is this what you mean by the Deep State, Bogey?

Big Donger wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 1:49pm:


How predictable!

I knew that he/she or not to sure which sex I am would try to spin this positive news story.

Spin the story then divert! Thats the way Karnal and others here work.

Yes Aussie let's just let I.S.I.S. grow strong in the absence of opposition and just like England did with Hitler, just pretend the problem doesn't exist

That is until like Neville Chamberlain who got off the plane waving his famous white paper declaring, 'peace in our time'

The next day the Nazis marched into Poland. I think someone used that white paper to wipe their arse on

How many times do I have to say this...,The United Nations is a bloody useless organisation who have presided over some of the biggest genocides in history whilst their blue bereted soldiers stood on the sidelines scratching their bums (Bosnia, Rwanda, Congo etc. the list is long)

Aussie I don't know why you have to be so gut wrenchingly exact all the time

I was discussing briefly in broad terms the events leading up to England's involvement in the War. Yes I did use the term 'the next day' but I was speaking in broad terms and not unfolding a specific calendar of events but more in broad terms

Apparently you seem unable to get your head around this

I can't help you in that regard. I have already conceded that 'the next day' was the wrong choice of words...get over it!

It was on the 30th September, 1938 that Chamberlain waved that 'Peace in our Time" piece of paper around.

Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 2:48pm:
100 percent wrong.

That is until like Neville Chamberlain who got off the plane waving his famous white paper declaring, 'peace in our time'

It was on the 30th September, 1938 that Chamberlain waved that 'Peace in our Time" piece of paper around.

I've just looked at a Calander to make sure, and I discovered that the day after that was the 1st October, 1938, and not the 1st September 1939.

Aussie I don't know why you have to be so gut wrenchingly exact all the time

I was discussing briefly in broad terms the events leading up to England's involvement in the War. Yes I did use the term 'the next day' but I was speaking in broad terms and not unfolding a specific calendar of events but more in broad terms

Apparently you seem unable to get your head around this

I can't help you in that regard. I have already conceded that 'the next day' was the wrong choice of words...get over it!

Do what you like, but you will see that I have consently used " " and the exact words of Mr Baron.

Patting yourself on the back will get you nowhere.  Try - facts.

It was on the 30th September, 1938 that Chamberlain waved that 'Peace in our Time" piece of paper around.

I've just looked at a Calander to make sure, and I discovered that the day after that was the 1st October, 1938, and not the 1st September 1939.

Aussie wrote on May 23^rd, 2017 at 2:14pm:
do keep going Ozzy, love to keep owning you 
Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 2:48pm:
Baron didnt use those words and you didnt quote him, you lied and now you are caught, like a little rat  who is cunning but not smart. 

You didnt quote him, you used his claim to try and prove his dates were false. That was the only part you challenged. You had no idea he misquoted until I told you. This is great. Im  loving this.

ok, let me pull on your choke chain a little tighter.
This is what Baron claimed
red baron wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 2:18pm:

And this is how you responded
Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 2:48pm:

So no Ozzy, despite your desperate convenient lie you repeated the statement as fact, you didnt quote Baron at all. Naughty Ozzy, no dog biscuit for you.
Tell another lie and I will continue to own you again each and every time. In fact, given your personality disorder you will continue to lie and I will continue to enjoy owning you. 

Aussie dines out on parchment and facts, Aussie loves the fact

And the fact is that Aussie is a retired Solicitor who bought taxis hates Uber

And uses this forum to attain the gaol he never made; that of being a living breathing Queen's Counsel with his wig and gown on, he seeks to dominate over all us mere mortals who dare dip a toe into this pond

Dream on Broomstick Lawyer

Aussie dines out on parchment and facts, Aussie loves the fact

And the fact is that Aussie is a retired Solicitor who bought taxis hates Uber

And uses this forum to attain the gaol he never made; that of being a living breathing Queen's Counsel with his wig and gown on, he seeks to dominate over all us mere mortals who dare dip a toe into this pond

Dream on Broomstick Lawyer

red baron wrote on May 23^rd, 2017 at 3:44pm:



And you were foolish enough to support Trump. That 'trumps' anything you can say about anyone else.

rhino wrote on May 23^rd, 2017 at 7:12pm:


Crazy stuff.  How better to quote someone than use their exact words and put " " around them?

The only person you are three steps ahead of Rhino is yourself.

Waste of time.  The Thread and what I posted speaks for themselves.

Knock yourself out.  It is not hurting me one bit.

Trump is selling weapons and munitions that Obama would not sell to Saudi Arabia because Saudis were killing civilians and causing a starvation catastrophe in Yemen.

Currently Saudi Arabia is using American and British weapons to bomb Yemen into smithereens.

Killing people with bombs, starvation, and cholera is a cause for rejoicing according to Red Baron.

mothra wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:



Collateral damage.

"Yemeni President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi had called for dialogue with the Houthis, inviting the group to join a "unity government", and the two sides ultimately signed a peace deal brokered by the UN envoy to Yemen, Jamal Benomar. It demanded that the Houthis withdraw from Sanaa and cease hostilities in other provinces in exchange for their demands being met. But the rebels did not comply, as their fighters pushed into other provinces, taking over the strategic port city of Hodeida on the Red Sea."

It's Yasser Arafat all over again. When Israel agreed to 98% of his terms - he baulked and reneged rather than find himself out of a job and no longer an international celebrity spending time in London's best hotel with his boyfriend chauffeur.

mothra wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 2:27pm:


Collateral damage.

Iran's proxies in Yemen are a Shia terror-force.

mothra wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 2:27pm:


Collateral damage.

Iran's proxies in Yemen are a Shia terror-force.

Certain economic realities are apt to predominate between nations as a practical priority that is fundamental to maintaining First World standards for its citizens.

China has an abysmal record of abuses of Human Rights upon its citizens, and yet we help fund and support the continuing success of this fascist Police State regime every time we buy something with Made in China stamped upon it.

Playing the game of 'Holier than Thou' with your detractors on this board is fraught with moral danger when the tables are turned against you.

Mothra ... Unforgiven ... when did you last make a purchase whilst fully aware you were helping to fund China's dictatorship?

And I'm curious. When did you last fill up your tank with Saudi oil?

Mothra?

Abortion?

Okay with you?

Hmm ... ?

Lord Herbert wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 10:17am:



Start a thread on it, Herbie.

You'll probably find out.

mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 10:37am:


Need more time to nut-out an answer? Not a problem.

Start a thread on it.

What are you afraid of?

Lord Herbert wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 6:19pm:


Projection Herbie? I would have thought that beneath you.