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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #60 - May 17^th, 2017 at 4:12pm

... wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:59pm:

Neither of you are in any position to be giving advice. I understand the public displays of pride, but hope for your sake youre taking steps to overcome the self inflicted fog of ignorance in private.

The best teachers i ever had, i thought were assholes at the time. You too will come to thank me for my patience, though only within the safety of your own private thoughts.

I thank you, Honky. The best teachers I had were very nice at the time, but that's just me.

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #61 - May 17^th, 2017 at 5:17pm

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:

You assume that because you are prejudiced, then naturally, that must be the default position for everyone else. It simply doesn't occur to you that people can be open-minded, objective and analytical.

Prejudices, interests and biases drive everyone. This becomes more apparent in the social sciences because these topics usually revolve around discussions of values and morals. As has been stated, if you cannot recognise your own interests and biases, then you shouldn't be lecturing others.

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #62 - May 17^th, 2017 at 5:25pm

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

... wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Ugh. Its not an extrapolation from the self, its from learning. L E A R N I N G.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/531/how_you_make_judgments_the_elephant_and_its_rider/

See how your reflexive emotional response to me prevents you from accepting truth?

Never done any serious reading on thinking, have you Honky?

Philosophy just passed you by, right?

It is philosophical. The elephant and rider analogy is heavily influenced by Plato's chariot and rider analogy.

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #63 - May 17^th, 2017 at 8:08pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:39pm:

... wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Ugh. Its not an extrapolation from the self, its from learning. L E A R N I N G.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/531/how_you_make_judgments_the_elephant_and_its_rider/

See how your reflexive emotional response to me prevents you from accepting truth?

Never done any serious reading on thinking, have you Honky?

Philosophy just passed you by, right?

It is philosophical. The elephant and rider analogy is heavily influenced by Plato's chariot and rider analogy.

Ahh... The Phaedrus!

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #64 - May 17^th, 2017 at 9:52pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 7:06am:

He is very good.

The Conservatives want to discuss things with you, the Progressives want to coerce and shut you up.

You're free to speak anytime on here Frank.

That's not what Brian would say if he had the power to enforce his idea of freedom: you are free to speak what he thinks is right.

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #65 - May 17^th, 2017 at 10:05pm

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 9:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 7:46am:

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 7:06am:

He is very good.

The Conservatives want to discuss things with you, the Progressives want to coerce and shut you up.

You're free to speak anytime on here Frank.

That's not what Brian would say if he had the power to enforce his idea of freedom: you are free to speak what he thinks is right.

Strange, you say exactly the same thing to him.

No one has the right to not be offended, no?

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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #66 - May 17^th, 2017 at 10:23pm

Gordon wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 10:39am:

... wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 10:35am:

Gordon wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

... wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 8:52am:

This topic (and much more) is covered in this excellent podcast.

I listen to a lot of joe rogans podcasts but Jordan Petersons first appearance was the only one I listened to twice. (The posted vid is his second appearance, and I'm only halfway through it). His speaking is so information dense and his clarity of thought is excellent, making this an absolute must hear.

And there is your problem. You listen to clowns like Joe Rogan.

He talks some rubbish but he's OPEN MINDED. Are you?

Yes, and although most of his guests are raving lefties, and he also identifies as one, i like that hes willing to call out their shity behaviour when he sees it, and to have guests that he doesnt agree with.

MSM could learn a lot about non-partisanship from him, and thats probably a big reason why Rogans podcasts draw in a bigger audience than they do.

I'd say he doesn't identify as left or right, but like me he's a 'cherry picker'.

Thought I seen you somewhere:

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61604 Here Gender:	Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech. Reply #67 - May 17^th, 2017 at 10:27pm I tried to read the lead article: wow about a 1,000 words saying that the author is mad as a hatter.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61604 Here Gender:	Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech. Reply #68 - May 17^th, 2017 at 10:40pm Funny topic to bring up when we have a conservative government in place which has done more to restrict free speech than any previous government we have had.
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Re: Why the Left wants to shut down free speech.
Reply #69 - May 17^th, 2017 at 11:29pm

Dnarever wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

I tried to read the lead article: wow about a 1,000 words saying that the author is mad as a hatter.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/05/86/4f/05864f2f1ed4f8984e57085a84814...

Thats OK Dna.

The article was pitched to those intelligent, inquiring minds that want a possible reason why the left is acting so bizarre. Your lack of comprehension is another.

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