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Reply #60 - May 15^th, 2017 at 10:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 9:41am:

Aussie wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

The West started this chit. Don't whinge if 'terror' fights back.

Really? How? When?

As always, you're blind to history, Soren. Tsk, tsk. the conflict began before WWI. The West attacked the Ottoman Empire. You could of course go further back, if you desired to the Crusades. However, according to you, the Crusades were retaliatory, despite the West ignoring what was going on outside Europe at the time... Roll Eyes

In reality, it takes two to tango and while the West has contributed its own share to the problem, so have the Muslims. However, the most recent efforts were in when? Oh, that's right, when Israel was established in 1948, without consultation of the Arabs in the region. Tsk, tsk, it's that pesky UN organisation again... Roll Eyes

So you think that a Tunisian drove a truck in a crowd in Nice because of Israel was established without consulting the Arabs??

Or three British born Pakistanis and a West Indian blew up buses and underground trains in London killing scores, because of Israel?

Or that the Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo massacres happened because the Triple Entente was at war with the Axis Powers and their allies, the "poor innocent Ottomans"?

Or the Syrian civil war, sorry, 'tango', is due to the existence of Israel?

Or the Iraq-Iran war, sorry, 'tango', all 8 years of it, was because the UN didn't ask the Persians or the Iraqis whether it was OK to recognise Israel??

Nobody believes this nonsense, not even you, Brian.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #62 - May 16^th, 2017 at 7:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

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People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

You make it up as you go. Islam is so sectarian, nobody is seen as a 'typical' Muslim.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #63 - May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

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People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #64 - May 16^th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

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People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

You make it up as you go. Islam is so sectarian, nobody is seen as a 'typical' Muslim.

Says the guy who lectures us day in day out who the "real" muslims are.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #65 - May 17^th, 2017 at 1:07am

Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 9:41am:

Aussie wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

The West started this chit. Don't whinge if 'terror' fights back.

Really? How? When?

As always, you're blind to history, Soren. Tsk, tsk. the conflict began before WWI. The West attacked the Ottoman Empire. You could of course go further back, if you desired to the Crusades. However, according to you, the Crusades were retaliatory, despite the West ignoring what was going on outside Europe at the time... Roll Eyes

In reality, it takes two to tango and while the West has contributed its own share to the problem, so have the Muslims. However, the most recent efforts were in when? Oh, that's right, when Israel was established in 1948, without consultation of the Arabs in the region. Tsk, tsk, it's that pesky UN organisation again... Roll Eyes

So you think that a Tunisian drove a truck in a crowd in Nice because of Israel was established without consulting the Arabs??

Or three British born Pakistanis and a West Indian blew up buses and underground trains in London killing scores, because of Israel?

Or that the Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo massacres happened because the Triple Entente was at war with the Axis Powers and their allies, the "poor innocent Ottomans"?

Or the Syrian civil war, sorry, 'tango', is due to the existence of Israel?

Or the Iraq-Iran war, sorry, 'tango', all 8 years of it, was because the UN didn't ask the Persians or the Iraqis whether it was OK to recognise Israel??

Nobody believes this nonsense, not even you, Brian.

The effects of events a century ago are still felt regularly today, Soren. Events of two centuries ago are still felt in some places and then you have the Serbs - they still feel the events of six centuries ago... Time you studied history and it's effects, Soren. You might find it revealing. It'd at least educate you. Roll Eyes

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #66 - May 17^th, 2017 at 1:09am

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

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People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

No, not every Muslim, Soren. Just the overwhelming majority are peaceful, moderate and well assimilated around the world and in particular, here in Australia. Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #68 - May 17^th, 2017 at 6:42am

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:09am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Quote:

People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

No, not every Muslim, Soren. Just the overwhelming majority are peaceful, moderate and well assimilated around the world and in particular, here in Australia. Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? Roll Eyes

According to whom, Brian? Youm?

And it's precisely your argument, I linked to it.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #69 - May 17^th, 2017 at 2:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:07am:

Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 9:41am:

Aussie wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

The West started this chit. Don't whinge if 'terror' fights back.

Really? How? When?

As always, you're blind to history, Soren. Tsk, tsk. the conflict began before WWI. The West attacked the Ottoman Empire. You could of course go further back, if you desired to the Crusades. However, according to you, the Crusades were retaliatory, despite the West ignoring what was going on outside Europe at the time... Roll Eyes

In reality, it takes two to tango and while the West has contributed its own share to the problem, so have the Muslims. However, the most recent efforts were in when? Oh, that's right, when Israel was established in 1948, without consultation of the Arabs in the region. Tsk, tsk, it's that pesky UN organisation again... Roll Eyes

So you think that a Tunisian drove a truck in a crowd in Nice because of Israel was established without consulting the Arabs??

Or three British born Pakistanis and a West Indian blew up buses and underground trains in London killing scores, because of Israel?

Or that the Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo massacres happened because the Triple Entente was at war with the Axis Powers and their allies, the "poor innocent Ottomans"?

Or the Syrian civil war, sorry, 'tango', is due to the existence of Israel?

Or the Iraq-Iran war, sorry, 'tango', all 8 years of it, was because the UN didn't ask the Persians or the Iraqis whether it was OK to recognise Israel??

Nobody believes this nonsense, not even you, Brian.

The effects of events a century ago are still felt regularly today, Soren. Events of two centuries ago are still felt in some places and then you have the Serbs - they still feel the events of six centuries ago... Time you studied history and it's effects, Soren. You might find it revealing. It'd at least educate you. Roll Eyes

Riiiiight... Grin

The West is holding a grudge against the Muslims... it goes back centuries.... Grin

Pull the other one bwian.... you apologist. Cheesy

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Reply #70 - May 18^th, 2017 at 7:25pm

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 6:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:09am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

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People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

No, not every Muslim, Soren. Just the overwhelming majority are peaceful, moderate and well assimilated around the world and in particular, here in Australia. Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? Roll Eyes

According to whom, Brian? Youm?

And it's precisely your argument, I linked to it.

Brain can never answer that question. The best he can do is point out that they haven't chopped his head off yet, and insist that must mean they share his fairy tale version of Islam.

The facts are irrelevant. This for example is just the tip of the iceberg.

It is one of the most backwards and brutal aspects of Islam, but still receives massive support among Muslims.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #71 - May 18^th, 2017 at 8:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:07am:

Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

So you think that a Tunisian drove a truck in a crowd in Nice because of Israel was established without consulting the Arabs??

Or three British born Pakistanis and a West Indian blew up buses and underground trains in London killing scores, because of Israel?

Or that the Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo massacres happened because the Triple Entente was at war with the Axis Powers and their allies, the "poor innocent Ottomans"?

Or the Syrian civil war, sorry, 'tango', is due to the existence of Israel?

Or the Iraq-Iran war, sorry, 'tango', all 8 years of it, was because the UN didn't ask the Persians or the Iraqis whether it was OK to recognise Israel??

Nobody believes this nonsense, not even you, Brian.

The effects of events a century ago are still felt regularly today, Soren. Events of two centuries ago are still felt in some places and then you have the Serbs - they still feel the events of six centuries ago... Time you studied history and it's effects, Soren. You might find it revealing. It'd at least educate you. Roll Eyes

Do explain in a bit more detail how the Serbs are even remotely relevant to the conflict between the Muslim and Western worlds, allegedly precipitated by the establishment of Israel.

Do tell.

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #72 - May 18^th, 2017 at 8:34pm

freediver wrote on May 18^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 6:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:09am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Quote:

People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

No, not every Muslim, Soren. Just the overwhelming majority are peaceful, moderate and well assimilated around the world and in particular, here in Australia. Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? Roll Eyes

According to whom, Brian? Youm?

And it's precisely your argument, I linked to it.

Brain can never answer that question. The best he can do is point out that they haven't chopped his head off yet, and insist that must mean they share his fairy tale version of Islam.

The facts are irrelevant. This for example is just the tip of the iceberg.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-chp1-8.pn...

It is one of the most backwards and brutal aspects of Islam, but still receives massive support among Muslims.

It is the HEIGHT of Islamophobia to apply standards of 'so-called' universal decency and enlightenment to Muslims.

It is hideous cultural appropriation, colonialism and the ultimate uncovering of your white, Zionist privilege. Muslims must be allowed
1 to determine what Islam means to them
2 settle in the West regardless of what they answered to 1.

Anything else is racists, culturalist, white Zionist privilege, oppressive. It is up to Muslim to decide what aspect of the Zionist West's culture they accept and reject and you just have to go along with that unless you are prepared to be howled down as a supremacist, wacist, Islamophobic... ZZZzzzzz

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Re: 4 Muslim women punched in unprovoked attack
Reply #74 - May 18^th, 2017 at 9:08pm

Frank wrote on May 18^th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 18^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 6:42am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:09am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Quote:

People fear Muslims because they refuse to understand Muslims, Soren. Just like you do. Tsk, tsk.

That's right folks. All those Yazidi sex slaves just need to make more of an effort to understand the men who are raping them. If they try really hard they will realise it is nothing to do with Islam and it is all America's fault. And they have no right or even ability to criticise them because of the different religions.

Freediver, why you identify the men of Da'esh as typical Muslims? Seems to me that the majority of Muslims don't accept them as typical. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

According to whom? You, Brian? You're an Islamophile. Any Muslim is considered by you to be non-violent, well-adjusted, assimilated and feminist, Yet there are hundreds of millions of Muslims who are none of those things. I was right, you cannot see the difference between Muslims. You just perceive them all as one group which you love and excuse. Tsk, tsk.

No, not every Muslim, Soren. Just the overwhelming majority are peaceful, moderate and well assimilated around the world and in particular, here in Australia. Tsk, tsk, erecting strawman arguments again? Roll Eyes

According to whom, Brian? Youm?

And it's precisely your argument, I linked to it.

Brain can never answer that question. The best he can do is point out that they haven't chopped his head off yet, and insist that must mean they share his fairy tale version of Islam.

The facts are irrelevant. This for example is just the tip of the iceberg.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-chp1-8.pn...

It is one of the most backwards and brutal aspects of Islam, but still receives massive support among Muslims.

It is the HEIGHT of Islamophobia to apply standards of 'so-called' universal decency and enlightenment to Muslims.

Carpet bomb them.

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