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longweekend58 wrote on May 16 th, 2017 at 3:50pm: mothra wrote on May 16 th, 2017 at 1:59pm: longweekend58 wrote on May 16 th, 2017 at 1:46pm: mothra wrote on May 16 th, 2017 at 11:47am: longweekend58 wrote on May 16 th, 2017 at 9:55am: mothra wrote on May 15 th, 2017 at 6:04pm: longweekend58 wrote on May 15 th, 2017 at 5:45pm: mothra wrote on May 15 th, 2017 at 5:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on May 15 th, 2017 at 4:24pm: mothra wrote on May 15 th, 2017 at 7:12am: longweekend58 wrote on May 14 th, 2017 at 5:49pm: Raven wrote on May 14 th, 2017 at 3:14am: Religion is what we have because our ancestors did not know what thunder was or where the sun went at night.
It was our first attempt to explain the world around us. An eclipse "The sun god is angry at us, we must make a sacrifice" God is an ever receding entity, in the light of scientific understanding.
Even the Christian god is no better then the pagan gods of old. A human sacrifice to ensure the survival of the rest of us.
Your ignorance on religion and Christianity is not a substitute for actual reasoning. \ Careful Longy, you don't want to come across as dismissive and patronising now, do you? Surely you must be educated enough to realise that many people consider reasoning and religion to be mutually exclusive.Is your counter argument to Raven based on anything other than perception? If so, what? Otherwise, you cannot legitimately fault Raven's reasoning. You can disagree with his conclusions, sure, but i see no valid counter argument to challenge his reasoning. That's only for people who already reject religion therefore making that assertion nothing more than confirmation bias. A proper debate on this topic belongs elsewhere but also demands credible and articulate discussion therefore excluding the vast majority of people here. Not at all. That does not explain the great many people who were raised religious but rejected it as they grew, in the face of a wider sphere of influence. I count myself among their numbers. Again, confirmation bias. Then how do you account for the rapid growth of the Christian church outside of the west and the largely static (ie not reducing) count in the west. You are speaking solely from your own experience and extrapolating it. And since you are poorly regarding in the intelligence area, you are hardly a great advertisment for your opinion. Lol! Longy gets insulting when he can't answer a question. Again. Are you really so insecure you must resort to such juvenile tactics? I think you are, aren't you. you are ONLY speaking from your own experience which, while valid, is only your own. And I repeat that you are not highly regarded for you brain-power or logic. It always amuses me how you resort to calling people stupid when you have been bested. It's almost like you believe it. Are you seriously suggesting that many people who are raised religious do not reject their religion when they grow up? Seriously? I wonder where all the atheists and agnostics come from then? Considering, of course: STEADY DECLINES: The proportion of Australians identifying Christianity as their religion has been declining over the last century – from 96% in 1911 to 61.1% in the 2011 Census. Over the last decade, Christianity in Australia has declined from 68% to 61.1%. http://mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/a-demographic-snapshot-of-christianit... and this is why people call you stupid. I clearly spoke of the difference between the growth of the church in the West and elsewhere. You simply cannot be taught. More insults when proven wrong. No wonder people call you stupid. You think "decline" means "growth". 'global growth' is defined as the net movement across the globe. THIS sort of ignorance is why you are considered stupid. If you weren't so stupid, you'd read back through our exchange and recognise where you went so horribly wrong. But alas, that is beyond your rudimentary intellectual prowess. Allow me to walk you through it. You claimed: " rapid growth of the Christian church outside of the west and the largely static (ie not reducing) count in the west."I have proved that the numbers of Christians have not remained static in Australia. Numbers are on the decline. If you weren't so ignorant, you'd know that the same is demonstrably true across the western world. In the US, for example, two thirds of Millennials claim "no religion". As for globally, Islam is the religion that is on the rise. It's projected to reach parity with Christianity by 2050, or thereabouts. By your line of, shall we call it, reasoning, Muslims must be right. Time to convert, Longy? Christianity is, globally, projected to decline.
"Over the coming decades, Christians are expected to experience the largest net losses from switching. Globally, about 40 million people are projected to switch into Christianity, while 106 million are projected to leave, with most joining the ranks of the religiously unaffiliated."http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
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