so I was trying to work out how much sugar was in Muesli bars recently...

but grams of sugar per 100 grams didn't really mean a lot so I looked up how many grams in a TeaSpoon...

you have 4 grams in one teaspoon...

so all you have to do when working out how much sugar is in your food is divide the amount of sugar by 4...

so a muesli isn't that big right???

a lot of them have over 20 grams of sugar per 100 grams...

thats 5 (or more) teaspoons of sugar in one little Muesli bar...

Healthy??

I think not... yuk...

even the best muesli bar I can find has 11 grams..

Artificial sweeteners are carcinogenic and I avoid them like the plague.

Unfortunately Yoghurt can be very high in sugar too which is a shame.

It's criminal that they load Yoghurt up with sugar.  If I wanted sugar in it I would load it with fruit myself.  Too many people have no idea what they are eating.

I try to base my diet on high protein and low carbs with good fats.   I avoid anything artificial and will eat sugar rather than sweeteners and real butter.  I wouldn't eat margarine in a fit.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:


I know but I am not supposed to eat much fruit.  I do, but not all the time and mainly summer fruits.

Black Orchid wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:


Fruit is good for you it's madness saying you're not supposed to eat much.

A good rule is at least 3 pieces a day make sure they're all different colours.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:


I eat low GI fruits.

Black Orchid wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 5:41pm:



peaches and then sparingly....I cant if I have two I eat two..

I eat summer fruits ie peaches, nectarines, plums, cranberries, blueberries etc and the very occasional banana in a smoothie and apples in apple pie but fructose does sky rocket my blood sugar and hence I can't eat too much fruit unless I have a craving for it.

We are all different and if you listen to your body it will tell you what is right for you.

It's all dependent on how your body processes it.  Or not.

...

I'm kinda blessed in that I don't overly like sweet stuff. I much prefer spicy, salty or bitter types of flavour. Give me beef jerky or dried sardines over a piece of cake or a muesli bar any day.

Pecca always has a few sweets in his pockets to give to the local kids.

I prefer my sugar fermented.

Gordon wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:


Golden or black?

Aussie wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:


It was close, I must be in a good mood. Gavel has fallen.

Setanta wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:


I had a black lab that snuck into the house when food for a party food had just been left out, it ate 2 cooked chickens and about 500g of cheese.

I guess I'm a black lab.

Aussie wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 8:58pm:


The only time I saw pecca banned was when he directly used the P word. Ive seen him use strong implications several times and skate.

Precedence has been applied.

Now we were talking about sugar,  weren't we?

A friends of Mrs G dropped over today with a tin of her mums home made shortbread.

Nodoby else in the house eats it, I could demolish half of it in one go.....willpower.

Mr Hammer wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:


Ask him what happens when he does. I know I have given him multiple suspensions for it, thankfully he is learning not to. I suggest you learn too. I'ts disgraceful that you would accuse another man of that. If you have the evidence, take it to the cops.

Mr Hammer wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:02pm:


I only write the truth, Homo.

Truth number one: you support Donald Trump.

Am I right?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:
What's the difference between Pecca calling me a homo and me saying he gives lollies out to children?

I've got poo to do tomorrow so I'm going to bed. Mjölnir will be waiting for anyone that want's to continue. Grow TF up.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
Obviously you are not concerned if some gay kid being offended with your insult you insensitive monster.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Oh nothing Mr Bubbles.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:
if you tell a dietitian that they will laugh in your face.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
the slang "homo" is considered a slur by LGBT people.
Quote:
http://www.glaad.org/reference/offensive

Obviously Sultana wasnt aware of this but he is now. Forum rules prohibit the use of these derogatory terms towards another poster.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:
Im not interested in your childish pedantic arguements, Sentanta called Hammer out on using inferences rather than direct slurs, he or someone needs to apply consistency here. Thats my last word on this in this thread.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 8^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:



thats why they have diffferent names

but its what your body does with it that counts...and unfortunately our bodies deal with it all the same...ose is the part you need to look at and call it sugar which is what the body thinks.....sugar never was part of our diet.. and obesity was unheard of in those days..

we do not need sugar....check your labels   you will find it in almost everything...

there are 39 gms of sugar in a can of coke....9 teaspoonfuls  .. when was the last time anyone checked the sugar content on a can of drink??...

OMG love sugar!! My breakfast this morning is a prime example. Two mango fruit cups, a strawberry yogurt and an oats bar. I most often have a mixed green salad before my main meal and eat fish more than meat. I don't have sugar in my tea or coffee and I don't drink milk or fizz, except the occasional V. My weight is perfect and my fitness above average. Just had my bloods done and show good health.

However, I do have a blood disorder which require meds.

Point being, every body is different and so should respond to the needs of their own body.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 12:24am:



have you had blood tests for diabetes unsub>>,,

I am sure you have   you should have them if not every 3 months every 6...you can get gadgets for testing your blood sugar levels.......seems to me you could do yourself a favor if you got one of those...

drinking coke and eating choc bars is not a good look..

you cant talk eating healthy one day  and do that the next   it doesnt work like that

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:12am:


It is hereditary. The meds keep me alive and a good diet keeps me healthy, most of the time.

Nom de Plume wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:33am:



thats good to know.. however   if your blood is the problem...then it is a biggy health wise..but its good they can help you..

^^ That's because doctors don't know poo about diet.  It's just not part of their curriculum, there's a gaping hole in the knowledge of the drug-driven medical system.

... wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:43am:



thats not true   anyone I know goes to a doctor  gets nagged to death about their diet.....and no smoking...its top of their list..

maybe you go to the wrong doctor..lolol

You idiot. I was the friggin dietician and that was before i even met her.

Most thankless job ever. 

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:40am:


Yeah., I know. My diet is very healthy, high in carbs, fruit, veg, fibre and fish. Low in fat and red meat.

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:


Potato's, peas, bananas... All yum. All high carb.

... wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:


Being a husband?

Tell me about it!

cods wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:31am:


I have had blood tests for diabetes. My first doctor told me that I don't have diabetes, and he seemed quite sure of himself. My second doctor told me that I have hyperglycemia. That I was borderline diabetic, or pre-diabetic. I took his advice on cutting down on sugar. He gave me a script to get some Metformin to control my blood sugar. I was taking about 120 tablets over a 4 month period. I dropped a heap of weight, going from 128kg to just over 100kg (105kg, I think) in that 4 months.

Then over the next 2 years, my weight balloon back to 120kg. I go to give blood this week. So, I can find out how much weight I have lost. However, I am back on a similar medication to Metformin, and I am doing okay. I think April, I was drinking a lot of Coca Colas, and had gained the weight that I had lost.

I think I might have had my last chocolate bar for a long time. I seem to have lost the taste for them. I can't say the same about colas and such. But I should be able to stop drinking very sugary drinks.

You know, I don't think I have a sugar addiction as such. Perhaps more like a caffeine addiction. Drinking colas because I feel hungry from the caffeine crash. Then eating later to ward off the hunger. Perhaps because I drink a lot more coffee that it is the caffeine that I want and not the sugar.

I might be getting better with my diet. But I think I am a long way off my early 20s diet and exercise. Eating when I am hungry and exercising to tire myself to get a good sleep later.

UnSubRocky wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

I didnt say that at all. Keep doing what you are doing, how much weight have you lost in the last 12 months?

rhino wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:


"Anyone who thinks that eating fruits, vegetables, and meats.... as causing out obestiy problems..." which excludes you from the criticism, seeing that you did not say that at all.

Weight was 119kg. Down a kilo from a month ago. Still have not started going for walks.

Nom de Plume wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 6:14am:
refined carbs. Bread, pastries, anything with sugar in it.  You can eat high fat all day long and stay thin, do that with carbs and you will get fat. No brainer.

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:


Equally true is that a high carb, low fat diet will not make you fat. I avoid pastries as they are high fat. Carbs are easier and cheaper to source than 'good fats'.

Carbs give the body a greater sense of fullness than a high fat diet. Carbs convert to energy more quickly, which is important when seeking to 'break the fast' from the previous night's meal ensuring an alert and responsive body.

rhino wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:


The "low fat" con always makes me laugh.

People buy low fat foods thinking they're okay, yet when you look at the ingredients they're usually very high in sugar (which is the killer).

This little deception is one of my favourites:



99% fat free?!  Wow, they must be good for you!

Let's just forget the fact that they're 99% sugar.

Nom de Plume wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 8:24am:


High carbs can lead to diabetes if you are not able to handle them, fat does not.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-running-blog/2016/jan/19/high-carb-...

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:


Get off your bum and work it off. 

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:


I grew a fat face a few years ago. With a mild weight loss over these last 2 years, my face has stretch marks that are mildly visible. There are stretch marks around my waist and on my torso.

Doing a fast one day of the week does help in removing the fat from those fat cells. But you leave yourself with those empty fat cells that you can't refill with a poor diet, if you want to keep the weight off.

Many years ago, I did a major weight loss of 20kg over 2 months. It was sore to sit down. I was carrying around loose skin. I had stretch marks all over my body. But my liver and heart were as healthy as anything. Took a few weeks for my body to adjust, but I was really good when I managed.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 5:55pm:


So anyways....

As I was saying ...

Why doesn't the government change regulations to make companies put how many teaspoons of sugar are in their products????

Its all about being informed so that the consumer can make an informed decision....

Like if you drink heaps of coke and become obese being a drain on our health system....

Then deny them any financial medical support from the public health system because of their own stupidity and gluttony

Where do I get powdered ranch dressing and powdered au jus (whatever that is.)

greggerypeccary wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 3:34pm:


100% agree on that case..

I saw a woman the other day that couldn't afford a $1 touch on fee for a ride into town on a bus.. ,

mind you,,,

she just threw away half a cigarette onto the ground that she hadn't finished...

got money for smokes but none for riding on public transport??

then today.. I saw another woman pay $170 for a 6 pack of cigarettes ... say what... ?? 

smokers should pay for their own healthcare

and cafes should be fined for putting out ashtrays and providing "enclosed" smoking areas on the footpath..

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
Not really. A diet high in saturated fat may do that but other fats may actually help keep your organs healthy.

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:


I totally support that doctor.