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Reply #60 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 1:19pm:
On reflection, three months was too long but the ban was warranted because mantra made accusations that Members of my Administration had hacked her into her account.  What worse accusation can be levelled at Admin?

I then asked her to provide some proof of what she said happened and I gave her seven days to do so accompanied with advice that if she did not, a ban would follow.  She did not, and the ban was imposed.


I don't really want to get into this. At the time I couldn't upload the screenshot I'd taken - either onto photobucket or directly onto the forum because the file was too big. I think you had a similar problem a few months ago where you couldn't upload a screenshot here. I still haven't figured out how to get one onto a forum.




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Reply #61 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:43pm
 
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:37pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:23pm:
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Details of the admin panel ? How was she supposed to do that as a member ? You knew she couldnt and so you were always going to ban her. No wonder so many are aggrieved by you I hope you are banned from here. tbh


The Admin/Mod logs showed that nothing had happened with mantra's account.  That was precisely why I asked her to provide details so I could investigate.


 
You would say that wouldnt you....so predictable.?

 

I also said it at the time.
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Reply #62 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
mantra wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:42pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 1:19pm:
On reflection, three months was too long but the ban was warranted because mantra made accusations that Members of my Administration had hacked her into her account.  What worse accusation can be levelled at Admin?

I then asked her to provide some proof of what she said happened and I gave her seven days to do so accompanied with advice that if she did not, a ban would follow.  She did not, and the ban was imposed.


I don't really want to get into this. At the time I couldn't upload the screenshot I'd taken - either onto photobucket or directly onto the forum because the file was too big. I think you had a similar problem a few months ago where you couldn't upload a screenshot here. I still haven't figured out how to get one onto a forum.







have you tried to resize it mantra..?
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Reply #63 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:52pm
 
The really important thing is you should not have been given a ban at all...was it only banning offence because you questioned the dictator Aussie and made him lose face, you infuriated him..I suspect that this is what it was, there was no reason to ban you. Aussie pretends to be your friend until he decides you have somehow crossed him.. then out pops Aunty Acid.
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Reply #64 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:54pm
 
Nifty edit Agnes:

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The really important thing is you should not have been given a ban at all...was it only banning offence because you questioned the dictator Aussie and made him lose face, you infuriated him..I suspect that this is what it was, there was no reason to ban you. Aussie pretends to be your friend until he decides you have somehow crossed him.. then out pops Aunty Acid.


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Reply #65 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:02pm
 
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:48pm:
have you tried to resize it mantra..?


Resizing probably wouldn't have made much difference to the size of the file AG and it would have been too difficult to see the details also. You've got to change the type of file it is apparently and that was beyond me at the time.

I'm past providing proof to anyone now. If they don't believe me - so be it.

I don't believe in long bans and never have. I wouldn't do it to anyone, so I'm always surprised when it's done to me especially because I'm conscientious about adhering to all the basic rules of a forum.

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Reply #66 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Nifty edit Agnes:

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The really important thing is you should not have been given a ban at all...was it only banning offence because you questioned the dictator Aussie and made him lose face, you infuriated him..I suspect that this is what it was, there was no reason to ban you. Aussie pretends to be your friend until he decides you have somehow crossed him.. then out pops Aunty Acid.


"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

And an ugly woman you are too Arsie...err aunty acid
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Reply #67 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:06pm
 
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Nifty edit Agnes:

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The really important thing is you should not have been given a ban at all...was it only banning offence because you questioned the dictator Aussie and made him lose face, you infuriated him..I suspect that this is what it was, there was no reason to ban you. Aussie pretends to be your friend until he decides you have somehow crossed him.. then out pops Aunty Acid.


"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

And an ugly woman you are too Arsie...err aunty acid


Just checked.  Yep.....I've got one of those dangly things Agnes.
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Reply #68 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:08pm
 
mantra wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 3:48pm:
have you tried to resize it mantra..?


Resizing probably wouldn't have made much difference to the size of the file AG and it would have been too difficult to see the details also. You've got to change the type of file it is apparently and that was beyond me at the time.

I'm past providing proof to anyone now. If they don't believe me - so be it.

I don't believe in long bans and never have. I wouldn't do it to anyone, so I'm always surprised when it's done to me especially when I'm conscientious about adhering to all the basic rules of a forum.


  I think you could have made it legible mantra but matters not anymore...but anyway,..the ban totally unneccarry and just another knife wound Arsie has inflicted-- on himself.
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Reply #69 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:13pm
 
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 4:08pm:
I think you could have made it legible mantra but matters not anymore...but anyway,..the ban totally unneccarry and just a


I was upset at the time, but I eventually got over it AG. People play all sorts of games on these forums mainly over power. It's something we have to get used to or it just makes posting here too unpleasant.
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Reply #70 - May 3rd, 2017 at 4:18pm
 
Jayzuz!

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Around the Annual PA Election there used to be a flurry of "socks" joining up, hoping to be able to vote.


Indeed,  ~ created by NOIQ and AiA quite deliberately to disrupt an election.

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Freediver still oversees the votes and disallows whatever, as far as I am aware.


No, incorrect.  Super Nova has been calling that.....via his spreadsheet....and Effendi, probably because he could not care less...just rubber stamps it.

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PS IF this post is copied elsewhere I will be reporting such person and advising Freediver.


Report and advise away, Neferti.
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Reply #71 - May 3rd, 2017 at 5:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:23pm:
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Details of the admin panel ? How was she supposed to do that as a member ? You knew she couldnt and so you were always going to ban her. No wonder so many are aggrieved by you I hope you are banned from here. tbh


The Admin/Mod logs showed that nothing had happened with mantra's account.  That was precisely why I asked her to provide details so I could investigate.


 

So you say nothing happened so why did you ban her - this point was just bought to my attention - so why DID you ban Mantra
for 3 months!!!
 - you skipped over this point !

So how was mantra going to prove anything because she needed access  to the mod panel to prove it!   You say that nothing showed on the mod panel and I think
you did
try to get into her account that was why you shut her down by banning her so you yourself would not be revealed as the one who tried to get into her account!!!!

This is the truth of the matter
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Reply #72 - May 3rd, 2017 at 5:33pm
 
Agnes wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 5:21pm:
Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:23pm:
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Details of the admin panel ? How was she supposed to do that as a member ? You knew she couldnt and so you were always going to ban her. No wonder so many are aggrieved by you I hope you are banned from here. tbh


The Admin/Mod logs showed that nothing had happened with mantra's account.  That was precisely why I asked her to provide details so I could investigate.


 

So you say nothing happened so why did you ban her - this point was just bought to my attention - so why DID you ban Mantra
for 3 months!!!
 - you skipped over this point !

So how was mantra going to prove anything because she needed access  to the mod panel to prove it!   You say that nothing showed on the mod panel and I think
you did
try to get into her account that was why you shut her down by banning her so you yourself would not be revealed as the one who tried to get into her account!!!!

This is the truth of the matter


Your desperation is becomming embarrassing Agnes.  You do understand that, don't you?

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Reply #73 - May 4th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
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Your desperation is becomming embarrassing Agnes.  You do understand that, don't you?


No it's not embarrassing Aussie. AG has added a bit of life to this thread - no-one else has bothered.

She's also made some good points by mentioning your banning methods back then. I don't think you would do the same now. AG's comments could apply to any moderator who bans someone for a very long time for personal reasons.

I know you're getting a lot of negative feedback lately. I switch off a bit and probably haven't noticed as much as I should have, but you must be doing something different lately because a few regular members seem upset with you.


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Reply #74 - May 4th, 2017 at 4:55pm
 
My level of perceived popularity of a Forum has never been an influence on my conduct.  I stay pretty consistent and am willing to admit an error as I have for example, on your ban being too long....but not the ban itself.
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