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Reply #45 - May 2nd, 2017 at 1:37pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:47pm:
Deserts are generally remote. Gee, I didn’t know that.



I suspected that.

And you didn't say how and when cleaning dust off them would occur and at what cost.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:47pm:
better to set up another Snowy Mts Scheme in Qld than try largescale solar.


Got a site in mind that the Greenies won't object to?

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:47pm:
and wind are the most promising baseload renewable energy sources


Intermittent wind as baseload? Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #46 - May 2nd, 2017 at 1:45pm
 
If you are ignorant of the significance of the DC grid I suggest you educate yourself.
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Reply #47 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 1:45pm:
If you are ignorant of the significance of the DC grid I suggest you educate yourself.



I didn't even address DC grid. Grin Grin Grin

There will be less losses on the grid due to capacitance and inductance. The resistance will stay the same.

Other losses will occur converting AC to DC and finally DC to AC. Wind Generators are typically 3 phase AC output and 690 Volt. So typically you would need to use a transformer (losses) to bring up to the voltage of the grid and then convert.
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Reply #48 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:19pm
 
So you are ignorant. Noted.
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Reply #49 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 2:19pm:
So you are ignorant. Noted.


Nope. I am an electronics bloke who when he did his apprenticeship was required to do AC and DC theory. Wink
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Reply #50 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:31pm
 
Nope, ignorant. Can educate yourself tho.
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Reply #51 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Nope, ignorant. Can educate yourself tho.


Which is more than we can say for you.
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Reply #52 - May 2nd, 2017 at 2:33pm
 
You are really reluctant to read and learn. Strange.
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Reply #53 - May 2nd, 2017 at 11:32pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/online-rage-erupts-over-gosl...

Read all about how great and glorious the MTM crap is!
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Reply #54 - May 3rd, 2017 at 11:29am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 11:32pm:


Thank you for offering a subscription to the Australian. however I must decline. Wink
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Reply #55 - May 3rd, 2017 at 1:39pm
 
Most of us know a way around the firewall.
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Reply #56 - May 3rd, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 1:39pm:
Most of us know a way around the firewall.


Who cares? You started off by saying you needed FTTH for smart meters - wrong.

Then you said you need FTTH for Netflix.

Now you seem just to be complaining about perceived slowness.

Nothing to do with decarbonisation of the grid. Wink
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Reply #57 - May 3rd, 2017 at 2:47pm
 
Nope. I said FTTH would allow much better monitoring and management of electricity networks and it would.

You dragged up crappy, slow and unreliable FTTN. I mentioned it drops out frequently and because of Netflix (and all the congestion built into FTTN) and just wasn’t suitable.

You bullshitted that FTTN was good blah blah.

Nah.

FTTH will really allow the potential of the smart meters to be fulfilled.

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Reply #58 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Nope. I said FTTH would allow much better monitoring and management of electricity networks and it would.



You haven't made any argument to support that.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
You dragged up crappy, slow and unreliable FTTN.



Nope. I just said you didn't need FTTH.

lee wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 11:32am:
Really? Now does a minuscule speed upgrade, less than 2 seconds, improve grid monitoring?


Jovial Monk wrote on May 3rd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
You bullshitted that FTTN was good blah blah.


Nope. I never even mentioned FTTN.

So when you stop lying about what was said; maybe you can make your point and prove it.


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Reply #59 - May 3rd, 2017 at 3:19pm
 
FTTH would allow the potential of smart meters to be realised.
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