Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:


I can't speak for the people who deny AGW, however, I can take a guess.

They probably object to the fact that the AGW cult is so overwhelmingly unscientific and dishonest in their approach.

That, coupled with the fact that there's no reliable, conclusive evidence to show that AGW is real, probably leads a lot of people to just dismiss the theory as nothing more than an educated guess.

As a skeptic, I can see where they're  coming from.

However, I'll continue to keep an open-mind on the subject, as one day it might just be proven to be true.

Today isn't that day, though.

Unscientific, uh huh.

So you think Dubyne is scientific?

There is a massive amount of science supporting AGW. A consilience of the different branches of science looking at global warming.

GHGs do absorb IR photons, blocking them from escaping to space and so heating the planet. This has been shown by terrestrial and satellite spectrometry. An alternative theory would have to explain away this greenhouse mechanism.

Booby’s LIA is fantasy pure and simple.

AGW is a well supported theory that offers a way to start reducing the warming before it becomes runaway.

I am not talking popularity. All the scientific evidence points to AGW occurring. There is no real challenge to the theory, no alternative explanation, not orbital changes, not a brighter hotter sun, nothing.

That means we really do need to decarbonise the economy.

All the scientific evidence points to AGW occurring.

There is no real challenge to the theory, no alternative explanation ...

Even a layman can see that the world is warming, just look how nearly all glaciers are retreating, Greenland is losing 200Gtons of ice a year, the Arctic sea ice extent has shrunk dramatically—anyone can find images of the shrinking of the Arctic.

Conservatives fear change but it is not just conservatives that deny AGW.

Sea levels are rising and when Antarctica starts losing net ice (it is gaining mass more and more slowly) sea level rise will speed up. (At present Antarctica is reducing sea level rise.)

There are a couple here who fear AGW so much the have let a lying charlatan convince them we are entering a Little Ice Age because sunspot numbers will reach a minimum. That might temporarily reduce temperatures by .5°C. This character Dubyne in a video a week or so ago said a lake in Melbourne turning pink was a sign of the Little Ice Age 

I don’t know.

If anybody here does not believe or disbelieves AGW then can you tell WHY? There is time to decarbonise the economy and avoid “catastrophe” so by denying you are making catastrophe certain! The irony of denialism.

It isn’t easy to think that urgent action is needed, like people talking themselves into believing war won’t come then a world was happens! But action now will be easier and cheaper than action in 20 years (or whatever) time.

I don’t consider deniers are unintelligent just afraid. Or maybe scientists are not conveying the science clearly and plainly enough?

Comments?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

No, the scientific evidence points to AGW due to GHGs.

WHAT alternative explanation????

So you have no alternative explanation. thought as much. You are a denier Gregg, dunno why but you are.