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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #375 - Jun 30^th, 2017 at 12:03am

lee wrote on Jun 4^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 4^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

So would you dispute that increasing concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere would lead to warming?

According to the science increased CO2 would lead to a higher temperature -"ALL OTHER THING BEING EQUAL". To date there has been no study showing all other things held equal. Wink

The degeneration of Lee. Never has any science to back himself up, demands scientific evidence of anything anyone else says.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #376 - Jun 30^th, 2017 at 10:44pm Pho Huc wrote on Jun 29^th, 2017 at 11:58pm: +1 on this. Lee knows enough about science to bullshit idiots. Is that what I did to you?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #377 - Jun 30^th, 2017 at 10:44pm Pho Huc wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 12:03am: Never has any science to back himself up, demands scientific evidence of anything anyone else says. Can't remeber the papers I posted that post dated yours?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #378 - Jul 1^st, 2017 at 1:33am Can you list those papers, Lees? I do notice you could not answer the questions I asked you. Do you just make it up as you go along? tsk tsk Booby does that, just avoids answering any questions “I am just a messenger” the simpleton sobs.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #379 - Jul 1^st, 2017 at 2:59pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 1^st, 2017 at 1:33am:

an you list those papers, Lees?

Go back through the threads Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 1^st, 2017 at 1:33am:

I do notice you could not answer the questions I asked you.

Which questions? What date?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 1^st, 2017 at 1:33am:

Do you just make it up as you go along? tsk tsk

No I leave it up to you. Wink

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #380 - Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 2:23am

WHY do people DENY ?

Because they are deathly afraid of the future and climate change, and refuse to accept their (our) role in what is to come.

I was going to add... 'çamels clinging to straws' and realised how fukkedup THAT sounded. Grin

I meant....
ahh what the futck who cares what I mean. They're just scared wee fukkers who clutch any hope to them like a drowning man clutching at a straw dummy.

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #381 - Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 3:38am

lee wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jun 30^th, 2017 at 12:03am:

Never has any science to back himself up, demands scientific evidence of anything anyone else says.

Can't remeber the papers I posted that post dated yours? Grin

I remember you posting a lot of scientific articles that you cherry picked for bits that supported your arguments while ignoring the fact that all their conclusions differed from yours.

I asked you for a coherent plausible explanation based on peer reviewed studies the explained the way the climate was behaving and didn't include AGW. Nothing.

So I gave up. You just dissemble and divert.

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #382 - Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 6:13pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 3:38am:

I remember you posting a lot of scientific articles that you cherry picked for bits that supported your arguments while ignoring the fact that all their conclusions differed from yours.

So on one hand I do post peer-reviewed articles and the other I don't.

Confused little puppy aren't you? Grin

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #383 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 5:27am

lee wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 3:38am:

I remember you posting a lot of scientific articles that you cherry picked for bits that supported your arguments while ignoring the fact that all their conclusions differed from yours.

So on one hand I do post peer-reviewed articles and the other I don't.

Confused little puppy aren't you? Grin

Oh you post lots of peer reviewed stuff, just nothing that supports your assertion that their is a plausible explanation for world climatic variation that doesn't include an AGW component. Glad I could clear that up for you

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #384 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 11:30am

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 4^th, 2017 at 5:27am:

Oh you post lots of peer reviewed stuff, just nothing that supports your assertion that their is a plausible explanation for world climatic variation that doesn't include an AGW component.

First - I never said there was NO AGW component. They have to determine what is the natural warming (internal variability) before they can calculate AGW. They haven't done that yet; in any paper I have seen. You know A - B = C. Not A = C.

Second - Natural variation could explain it.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #385 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 12:17pm No, natural variation does not explain it. AGW is due to GHGs we put in the atmosphere. That is known from spectrometry—not models.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #386 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 12:54pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 4^th, 2017 at 12:17pm: No, natural variation does not explain it. AGW is due to GHGs we put in the atmosphere. That is known from spectrometry—not models. That's an assertion. Back it up. Specrometry shows net effect. Incoming and outgoing.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #387 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 4:14pm Spectrometry shows the GHGs are absorbing IR photons heading out from earth. This is the mechanism of AGW.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #388 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 6:35pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 4^th, 2017 at 4:14pm: Spectrometry shows the GHGs are absorbing IR photons heading out from earth. This is the mechanism of AGW. So what happened to incoming IR photons? Did they get lost?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #389 - Jul 4^th, 2017 at 6:38pm Temperatures of the bodies emitting the IR?
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