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Question: The earth is warming because
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It is cooling    
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It isn’t warming    
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It is warming from natural causes    
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It is warming from anthropogenic causes    
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It is warming from natural & anthropogenic causes    
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Why do some people deny AGW? (Read 19865 times)
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #360 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:52pm
 
Webtoad wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 11:44am:
Webtoad wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 11:35am:
I don't believe in AGW. I am tertiary educated in a field of science.


Right wing political science?
After reading some of your posts you fall in the same category as the Mechanic


No, one of the hard physical sciences. To clarify, natural climate change is real and occurring; AGW is nothing more than a conjecture that sees public support (predominately from the left) although little to no peer reviewed science of any significance backing it up.



Why are you being so vague about what field you are tertiary educated in? After all, you are the one who brought it up.

So would you dispute that increasing concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere would lead to warming?
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Reply #361 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
So would you dispute that increasing concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere would lead to warming?



According to the science increased CO2 would lead to a higher temperature -"ALL OTHER THING BEING EQUAL". To date there has been no study showing all other things held equal. Wink
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Reply #363 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:58pm
 
OOh, scary.Colours where data is sparse or non-existent. UHI changes.

Just look at those oceans. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Can we get it with error bars?
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Reply #364 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:59pm
 
The rise of CO2 concentration is relentless.

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Reply #365 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 4:14pm
 
More scary stories. Wink
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Reply #366 - Jun 4th, 2017 at 4:31pm
 
Isn't it amazing how GISTEMP can give a value of reconstructed global temperature to hundredths of a degree, right back to 1880?

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #367 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 2:15pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
So would you dispute that increasing concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere would lead to warming?



According to the science increased CO2 would lead to a higher temperature -"ALL OTHER THING BEING EQUAL".
To date there has been no study showing all other things held equal.
Wink

There doesn't have to be.

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Reply #368 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 2:17pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 4:14pm:
More scary stories. Wink

The really scary stories start when your kids friends realise you hated them all along....  Grin Grin
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Reply #369 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 2:19pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
OOh, scary.Colours where data is sparse or non-existent. UHI changes.

Just look at those oceans. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Can we get it with error bars?

You know nothing!

You're all fake news for profit: I wish I had blue blooded business acumen and voted for things like copper internet just to make my own kids cry !

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You hate the world buddy because you're hopeless in bed  Wink
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Reply #370 - Jun 10th, 2017 at 5:52pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jun 10th, 2017 at 2:19pm:
lee wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
OOh, scary.Colours where data is sparse or non-existent. UHI changes.

Just look at those oceans. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Can we get it with error bars?

You know nothing!



Well I know you don't want to admit to error bars or you would quote them. Wink
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #371 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 12:51am
 
Unfortunately alarmists like those above have no real arguments based on real facts and can only apparently use emotive claptrap and ad hominem.
The climate alarmist propagandists and those stupid enough to believe them need a reality check.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #372 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 11:12am
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 11th, 2017 at 12:51am:
Unfortunately alarmists like those above have no real arguments based on real facts and can only apparently use emotive claptrap and ad hominem.
The climate alarmist propagandists and those stupid enough to believe them need a reality check.


who were you accusing of using emotive claptrap and ad hominem?
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #373 - Jun 11th, 2017 at 1:11pm
 
Why?
Did you miss it?
Most alarmists have a short attention span too.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #374 - Jun 29th, 2017 at 11:58pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 11:31am:
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Why do some people deny AGW?


There are many and varied reasons why some people deny AGW. Even on this forum the reasons are varied.

There are people like the Mechanic. He has no idea about science but rejects AGW on purely political ideological grounds. Right wing conservative commentators tell him to deny AGW, so he does. I would suspect the vast majority of the deniers would fall into this category.

Then there are people like Ajax. He is a conspiracy theorist who believes the moon landings were faked and the new world order is taking over. The AGW "conspiracy" just forms part of that paranoid narrative.

Then you get people like lee.
Of his 8000  posts I would estimate that 99% are anti AGW. Usually within half an hour he will respond to any AGW post with a rebuttal. The rare non AGW posts he makes are brief and lame. Clearly the sole reason he is on this forum is to counter AGW posts.
lee's posts suggest that he does have an understanding of science, but he uses that knowledge to deliberately, deceive, cherry pick, obfuscate and confuse. He has been caught many times flip-flopping to suit his position.
Clearly there can only be 2 reasons why lee denies AGW.
1) he is a paid shill to monitor internet forums and make AGW denying posts
2) he is a troll who enjoys wasting the time of genuine debaters.


+1 on this. Lee knows enough about science to bullshit idiots. personally i'm leaning towards a professional, trolls usually spread their trolling around, Lee is extremely focused.

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