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Question: The earth is warming because
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It is cooling    
  0 (0.0%)
It isn’t warming    
  1 (25.0%)
It is warming from natural causes    
  0 (0.0%)
It is warming from anthropogenic causes    
  1 (25.0%)
It is warming from natural & anthropogenic causes    
  2 (50.0%)




Total votes: 4
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Reply #315 - May 7th, 2017 at 6:29pm
 
Good help is expensive, Oh Master, so bloody cough up some pay pronto, Oh Master!


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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #316 - May 7th, 2017 at 6:45pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 7th, 2017 at 6:29pm:
Good help is expensive, Oh Master, so bloody cough up some pay pronto, Oh Master!


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But any help you provided would be cheap as chips.
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Reply #317 - May 9th, 2017 at 9:31am
 
Why do you deny AGW, Lees? All that reading of denier sites etc etc you must know it is happening?

E.g. the shill JoNova has moved from denying AGW altogether to saying all the warming is due to the first x% of CO2 and that more CO2 won’t increase warming (false, of course.)

So why deny?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #318 - May 9th, 2017 at 11:39am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 9:31am:
E.g. the shill JoNova has moved from denying AGW altogether to saying all the warming is due to the first x% of CO2 and that more CO2 won’t increase warming (false, of course.)



Direct quote please. Wink
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Reply #319 - May 9th, 2017 at 12:12pm
 
Why do you deny, Lees? I am sure you know AGW is real but maybe you are desperately trying to pretend to yourself it doesn’t? Did you vote “cognitive dissonance” in the poll? You should.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #320 - May 9th, 2017 at 1:11pm
 
Don’t forget to vote in the poll if you deny AGW!
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #321 - May 9th, 2017 at 1:34pm
 
lee wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 11:39am:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 9:31am:
E.g. the shill JoNova has moved from denying AGW altogether to saying all the warming is due to the first x% of CO2 and that more CO2 won’t increase warming (false, of course.)



Direct quote please. Wink



Still no JoNova quoted. Wink
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Reply #322 - May 9th, 2017 at 1:57pm
 
Why do you deny AGW Lees?
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Reply #323 - May 9th, 2017 at 2:14pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Why do you deny AGW Lees?


Please show where I have denied AGW.
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Reply #324 - May 9th, 2017 at 2:17pm
 
lee wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Why do you deny AGW Lees?


Please show where I have denied AGW.

Why deny?
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Reply #325 - May 10th, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
The poll results are revealed.

Only four own up to being deniers! Of course, Booby’s stupid ice age crap has turned people off this board. I am trying to rectify that.

Anyway, two bravely declared there has been no warming. Obviously, these two believe scientists are playing funny buggers with temperature readings. Hmmm maybe I should have included a “Pause in warming” option? There hasn’t been a pause but there you go.

One admits man has added something to global warming. Fairies did the rest I suppose? Fairies being cyclists cycles. Hmm need to add a velocipede  Roll Eyes question in the next poll.

One, naming no names Mike  Grin voted “cognitive dissonance” which is likely the main reason people deny global warming and/or anthropogenic global warming.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #326 - May 11th, 2017 at 9:47am
 
Maybe I should add “global cooling” to the next poll? Against all evidence I bet we get two votes for that option!

Hmmm

Option 1. The world is cooling

Option 2. Global temperatures are stable

Option 3. Global temperatures are increasing but will cool, part of the regular cycle

Option 4. Global temperatures are increasing but not due to man

Option 5. Global temperatures are increasing but man only plays a small role

That covers, I guess, the spectrum of denial. 1 & 2 are just contrary to fact, 3 & 4 are just an opt out, as is 5.

A more interesting poll would be WHY people deny. Among reasons I suppose some feel some guilt but don’t want to change–these would be diehard deniers, some don’t want to change (conservatives) and some may get a benefit (job, share dividends) from fossil fuel interests? Blaming “greenies” and pretending AGW isn’t real is just a way to avoid thinking and changing.

I am amused that some people tell me “AGW is last century junk” or “nobody believes in AGW anymore” when AGW is still roaring along: sea ice extent declining, glaciers retreating, Greenland melting etc etc and all this at a time when the sun has been relatively quiescent. The disconnect from reality with these people is pretty much total. Cognitive dissonance indeed.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #327 - May 11th, 2017 at 9:51am
 
lee wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 9th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Why do you deny AGW Lees?


Please show where I have denied AGW.


There's only one denier in this thread: JV.

He's openly admitted that he denies the possibility of alternative causes of climate change.

Hard to believe that someone could have such a closed-minded attitude.

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Reply #328 - May 11th, 2017 at 9:57am
 
The evidence supports AGW. No alternate theory has realistic evidence.

You can talk about cults or closed minds all you like, Gregg, but the evidence for AGW, radiative forcings, is unmistakeable.

Please don’t say “AGW is just a theory” because ALL science is “just” a theory.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #329 - May 11th, 2017 at 9:59am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 9:57am:
The evidence supports AGW. No alternate theory has realistic evidence.

You can talk about cults or closed minds all you like, Gregg, but the evidence for AGW, radiative forcings, is unmistakeable.

Please don’t say “AGW is just a theory” because ALL science is “just” a theory.


Astounding.

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