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Question: The earth is warming because
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It is cooling    
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It isn’t warming    
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It is warming from natural causes    
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It is warming from anthropogenic causes    
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It is warming from natural & anthropogenic causes    
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« Created by: Jovial Monk on: Jul 31st, 2017 at 9:35am »

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Why do some people deny AGW? (Read 20002 times)
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Reply #195 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:23pm:
We know the mechanism of AGW.



Nope. postulation.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:23pm:
We know it has been happening despite the sun being in a quiescent state.



You like to ignore visible light don't you? You haven't explained the downwelling IR radiation as part of that visible light, and its effect on CO2.

Takes something special to use your personal beliefs ahead of published science. Where is that published science on the warming too fast to be natural variation? You must have something scientific; or not. Wink
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Reply #196 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:35pm
 
You are talking nonsense again, Lees.
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Reply #197 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:23pm:
The warming and CO2 are unprecedented.


Mere speculation.

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Reply #198 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
What hiatus?
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Reply #199 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:52pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:36pm:
What hiatus?


New paper: The hiatus still exists
Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:33pm Quote
"The subtle origins of surface-warming hiatuses"



"Budgeting with existing observations cannot constrain the origin of the recent hiatus, because the uncertainty in observations dwarfs the small flux deviations that could cause a hiatus. The sensitivity of these flux deviations to the observational dataset and to energy budget choices helps explain why previous studies conflict, and suggests that the origin of the recent hiatus may never be identified."

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate3274.html

To which you responded - "Interesting paper" Wink
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Reply #200 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
You are talking nonsense again, Lees.


Which nonsense would that be? Please be specific. Wink
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Reply #201 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
Tell me Lees, why do YOU deny climate change in general and AGW in particular. You make yourself look silly several times doing so. So. . .why deny?
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Reply #202 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:17pm
 
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Reply #203 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:23pm
 
Why do you deny, Gregg? Do you deny that the globe is warming?
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Reply #204 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:44pm
 
LOL.......it's like throwing a ball against a brick wall.

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Reply #205 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:49pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
Tell me Lees, why do YOU deny climate change in general



Really? Please quote where I have said the climate doesn't change. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
and AGW in particular.



And this also. As I have said many times man has contributed through land use change.

So tell me ... why do you feel the need to continually lie?
Why do you feel the need to label people?
Why do you feel the need to make sch!tt up?
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Reply #206 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
What hiatus, Lees?
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Reply #207 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
What hiatus, Lees?



The one admitted to by the IPCC in AR5. Chapter 9 Box 9.2

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_Chapter09_FINAL.pdf
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Reply #208 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 9:38pm
 
The non–existent hiatus?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #209 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 10:45pm
 


You can accept climate change

You can accept anthropogenic global warming

All of it is a valid hypothesis / theory


What no-one should accept is that Australia's approx 1% of carbon output is worth doing anything about. We could cut out output by 100% and not a single thing will change.

We are irrelevant, politically and pollutionally; no-one gives a sh1t about our opinions or actions on the matter.


If it in out best interest to make some changes fine, but don't scream the world in going to end unless "we" do something now. It may very well end, but not because did or did not do something.



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