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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156058 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #180 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:43pm lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:32pm: That is what the science says. So where does the science show the warming cannot be natural?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #181 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fid...

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

https://i0.wp.com/principia-scientific.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/NASA_FRAUD...

http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/

NASA Exposed In ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud

Thanks sir master Light.

Notice that Jovial ignored your evidence?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #182 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:59pm Light doesn’t give evidence but conspiracy theory nonsense. Light is a lot like Dubyne, actually, except Dubyne lies for money.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #183 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:00pm Maybe you lot would like to join these deniers: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/climate-change-skeptic-group-seeks-to-...
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #184 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fid...

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

https://i0.wp.com/principia-scientific.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/NASA_FRAUD...

http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/

NASA Exposed In ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud

Thanks sir master Light.

Notice that Jovial ignored your evidence?

Indeed.

As well as refusing to show us where science deems that the warming cannot be natural.

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #185 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:07pm

I ignore nonsense.

The CO2 is higher than it has been for a very long time.
The rate of warming is faster than it has ever been.

Ergo, not natural.

We see that IR is prevented from escaping to space by water vapor and the greenhouse gases. NASA has satellites monitoring that.

What more you want I don’t know.

Why not contact the Heartland Institute to get more info on AGW denial? You can also learn about denial of the theory of evolution. Or join Booby in his adoration of the nonsense spouted by Dubyne. You can learn all about foxes being flash frozen (it was cold, of course but not -80°C cold for goodness sake!) It is all nonsense!

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156058 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #186 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:09pm lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:32pm: That is what the science says. So where does the science show the warming cannot be natural?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #187 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:12pm The CO2 content of the atmosphere is higher than it has been for a long time. The globe is heating up a rate never seen before. Ergo, not natural.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156058 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #188 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:13pm lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:32pm: That is what the science says. So where does the science show the warming cannot be natural? It looks like you're not going to get an answer.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #189 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:13pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:42pm: It is warming faster than it ever has before, doofus. 1. Define "ever before"' 2. So you are saying correlation is causation? You know that is not scientific.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156058 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #190 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:15pm lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:13pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:42pm: It is warming faster than it ever has before, doofus. 1. Define "ever before"' 2. So you are saying correlation is causation? You know that is not scientific. The AGW cult has no interest in science.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #191 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:16pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:07pm: The rate of warming is faster than it has ever been. Similar to early 20th century warming. Which is before the AGW was considered measurable.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #192 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:18pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:12pm: The globe is heating up a rate never seen before. So was the hiatus at a rate never seen before? What proof are you using for your argument?
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Reply #193 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

I suggest that you lot do some basic logic course.

The warming and CO2 are unprecedented. CO2 absorbs IR photons from exiting to space.

I really cannot make it any simpler.

I really would like to know WHY people deny AGW. Do you all drive huge SUVs? Dislike any change?

Dunno the world population is 7 billion and more and more people world wide are reaching middle class status and buying cars, more and more electricity is being generated and you think none of this makes any difference? Not likely.

Since mid 19th century we have been spewing more and more pollution of all kinds into the atmosphere (and streams etc etc) and building huge rubbish dumps which generate methane etc etc and you think none of this makes any difference? Not likely.

We know the mechanism of AGW. We know it has been happening despite the sun being in a quiescent state. Takes something special to believe rubbish like Dubyne spews or to deny AGW.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 156058 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #194 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:29pm lee wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:18pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 7:12pm: The globe is heating up a rate never seen before. So was the hiatus at a rate never seen before? What proof are you using for your argument? He seems reluctant to show us any proof. I wonder why that is
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