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Question: The earth is warming because
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #135 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:19pm
 
The Essence Of Science In 60 Seconds (Richard Feynman)





Good video -
it's a pity that Jovial doesn't understand it.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #136 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:16pm:
I have not quoted media, I have quoted scientific sources.

NOBODY has been able to refute a single letter I have quoted. I have noticed that.



Many of David DuByne's videos have debunked fake NASA & NOAA data.

You admitted that you haven't watched the videos.
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Reply #137 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
Booby, I read the descriptions and laugh.

Dubyne is an oilseed salesman, he can refute nothing. He lied about the fox, the pink lake and so much more which I have documented, Booby. He is not a credible source, he is spinning a line that he is probably being paid to spin. Total useless garbage.

How much time have you wasted watching all 400–odd videos and reading the fruitcake comments? You will never get that time back, Booby and they have filled your head with nonsense.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #138 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
Booby, I read the descriptions and laugh.

Dubyne is an oilseed salesman, he can refute nothing. He lied about the fox, the pink lake and so much more which I have documented, Booby. He is not a credible source, he is spinning a line that he is probably being paid to spin. Total useless garbage.

How much time have you wasted watching all 400–odd videos and reading the fruitcake comments? You will never get that time back, Booby and they have filled your head with nonsense.



If the observations disagree with the theory then the theory is wrong.


Record cold temperatures all over the world - & getting colder -
means that AGW theory is wrong.

It's that simple.
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Reply #139 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:41pm
 
Dubyne lies and exaggerates any cold.

You must have forgotten that “record cold and snow in Europe, all crops ruined” bulldust he came out with recently? It wasn’t true, was it Booby? Outlook for winter crops was excellent.

Dubyne lies, exaggerates and cherry picks. Oh yeah, remember “Europe wide record cold weather” turned out to be a bit of a cold spell in southern Sweden.

You cannot trust anything Dubyne says.
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Reply #140 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:42pm
 
I will trust the BoM and CSIRO and NASA and UK Met Office before a bullshitter like Dubyne!

The globe is WARMING not cooling you sad sack! And it has been warming while the sun has been quiescent.

Even the comments to the stupid videos tell you that it was 70°C in Chicago and the midwest in February. 70°C in the middle of winter! Dubyne doesn’t mention that, does he? Or the warm Arctic and the disappearing melting sea ice?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #141 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:52pm
 
Such powerful videos:



John Casey Predicts 2016 Mini Ice Age Begins & NASA Hides TSI Data | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035

Published on Apr 13, 2016

John Casey has just come out with his new commentary for rapid cooling to begin at the end of 2016, ushering in a cold period that will last 30+ years.

NASA has also been lying about Total Solar Irradiance measurements to hide global cooling. the 1979 baseline average was 1366, but now in 2016 the same 1979 baseline average has been lowered to 1361 to hide the drop in TSI.






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Reply #142 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:55pm
 
You just can’t refute a word I wrote, can you Booby? Yet you will keep wasting your time watching the collations of crap in the videos. Weird.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #143 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:56pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Such powerful videos:



John Casey Predicts 2016 Mini Ice Age Begins & NASA Hides TSI Data | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035

Published on Apr 13, 2016

John Casey has just come out with his new commentary for rapid cooling to begin at the end of 2016, ushering in a cold period that will last 30+ years.

NASA has also been lying about Total Solar Irradiance measurements to hide global cooling. the 1979 baseline average was 1366, but now in 2016 the same 1979 baseline average has been lowered to 1361 to hide the drop in TSI.








More complete crap.

What if 2017 is hotter than 2016? Or will that be all the meteorological bodies lying?

How can NASA hide global cooling when it is warming?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #144 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:58pm
 
There has certainly been no global cooling so far in 2017! Dubyne has tried hard to pretend there is but that is just bullcrap!
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #145 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:19pm:
The Essence Of Science In 60 Seconds (Richard Feynman)





Good video -
it's a pity that Jovial doesn't understand it.


If you knew anything about science you wouldn’t put your faith in Dubyne and his nonsense.

About the drop in solar irradiance, I have mentioned that and pointed out that with the sun quiescent the globe has STILL warmed! The Arctic is STILL warmer than average and the ice extent is STILL decreasing more than average. The globe is still warming, Booby, warming!
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #146 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:27pm
 
Solar irradience and AGW, one study:
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Nature 360, 330 - 333 (26 November 1992); doi:10.1038/360330a0


Implications for global warming of intercycle solar irradiance variations


MICHAEL E. SCHLESINGER & NAVIN RAMANKUTTY

Department of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, 105 South Gregory Avenue, Urbana, Illinois 61801, USA

FOLLOWING earlier studies1–6, attention has recently been directed again to the possibility that long-term solar irradiance variations, rather than increased greenhouse gas concentrations, have been the dominant cause of the observed rise in global-mean surface temperature from the mid-nineteenth century to the present. Friis-Christensen and Lassen7 report a high correlation (0.95; ref. 8) between the variable period of the '11-year' sunspot cycle and the mean Northern Hemisphere land surface temperature from 1865 to 1985. The Marshall Institute report9 concludes that '…the sun has been the controlling influence on climate in the last 100 years, with the greenhouse effect playing a smaller role." Here we explore the implication that such putative solar irradiance variations would have for global warming. Our results provide strong circumstantial evidence that there have been intercycle variations in solar irradiance which have contributed to the observed temperature changes since 1856. However, we find that since the nineteenth century, greenhouse gases, not solar irradiance variations, have been the dominant contributor to the observed temperature changes.


http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v360/n6402/abs/360330a0.html

So much for THAT crap video you posted, Booby.

So much for HIDING TSI, Booby!
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Reply #147 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2017 at 3:08pm:
The “cult member” has science on his side, the deniers just have their denial.


So why don't you answer the scientific questions?

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Reply #148 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:35pm
 
Here is another study on TSI:

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Abstract. A composite record of the Sun's total irradiance
compiled from measurements made by five independent
space-based radiometers since 1978 exhibits a prominent 11-
year cycle with similar levels during 1986 and 1996, the two
most recent minimum epochs of solar activity. This finding
contradicts recent assertions of a 0.04% irradiance increase
from the 1986 to 1996 solar minima and suggests that solar
radiative output trends contributed little of the 0.2°C
increase in the global mean surface temperature in the past
decade.
Nor does our 18-year composite irradiance record
support a recent upward irradiance trend inferred from solar
cycle length, a parameter used to imply a close linkage
in the present century between solar variability and climate
change.


https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Judith_Lean/publication/228356756_The_Sun's...

So much for hiding TSI.
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #149 - Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:36pm
 
If the observations disagree with the theory then

the theory is wrong.

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