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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #120 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:33pm It's good to see that not everyone has taken this pseudoscience called AGW, hook line and sinker. Refreshing.................
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #121 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:37pm

What, exactly, is “pseudo” about it? Spectrometry records the absorption of IR photons by GHGs and the globe is warming even with a quiescent sun.

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The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied1, 2, and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established3, 4. But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes—most importantly the hydrological cycle—that are not well understood5, 6, 7. Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation8, 9, 10, which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect11, 12, 13. Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.

That seems pretty plain and not capable of confusion. It seems “sciency” and not at all “cult like.” What is cult like is the denial with no alternative explanation for the warming.

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #122 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:37pm:

What, exactly, is “pseudo” about it? Spectrometry records the absorption of IR photons by GHGs and the globe is warming even with a quiescent sun.

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The evolution of the Earth's climate has been extensively studied1, 2, and a strong link between increases in surface temperatures and greenhouse gases has been established3, 4. But this relationship is complicated by several feedback processes—most importantly the hydrological cycle—that are not well understood5, 6, 7. Changes in the Earth's greenhouse effect can be detected from variations in the spectrum of outgoing longwave radiation8, 9, 10, which is a measure of how the Earth cools to space and carries the imprint of the gases that are responsible for the greenhouse effect11, 12, 13. Here we analyse the difference between the spectra of the outgoing longwave radiation of the Earth as measured by orbiting spacecraft in 1970 and 1997. We find differences in the spectra that point to long-term changes in atmospheric CH4, CO2 and O3 as well as CFC-11 and CFC-12. Our results provide direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect that is consistent with concerns over radiative forcing of climate.

That seems pretty plain and not capable of confusion. It seems “sciency” and not at all “cult like.” What is cult like is the denial with no alternative explanation for the warming.

JV as usual you're misinformed and talking malarkey.

Read here,

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.3706v1.pdf

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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122326 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #123 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:57pm Hi Ajax, Jovial doesn't know.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #124 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:01pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:57pm: Hi Ajax, Jovial doesn't know. It would seem so Bobby but its not for lack of material we shove under his nose on a daily basis, mostly he tends to ignore it, pushing his AGW agenda.....LOL
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #125 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:03pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

Hi Ajax,

Jovial doesn't know.

It would seem so Bobby but its not for lack of material we shove under his nose on a daily basis, mostly he tends to ignore it, pushing his AGW agenda.....LOL

Yes - AGW is just one theory supported by the media.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #126 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:04pm I LOVE it when Booby criticises me. It is always a clear case of projection.
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122326 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #127 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:07pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:04pm: I LOVE it when Bobby criticises me. It is always a clear case of projection. Jovial. AGW is a theory.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #128 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:07pm “AGW a theory promoted by the media” ahahahahahahaha You really are a weird guy, Booby! You believe implicitly a lying charlatan talking complete bull poop! —fox flash frozen —lake turned pink And think you can criticise me?
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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #129 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

I LOVE it when Bobby criticises me. It is always a clear case of projection.

Jovial.

AGW is a theory.

ALL science is a theory, Booby!

AGW has solid evidence to support it, however while the Dubyne crap is just that, crap!

There are theories propounded to explain something. There are scientific laws that just DESCRIBE but do not explain things: Boyle’s Law, Newton’s three Laws of Motion.

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #130 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

Hi Ajax,

Jovial doesn't know.

It would seem so Bobby but its not for lack of material we shove under his nose on a daily basis, mostly he tends to ignore it, pushing his AGW agenda.....LOL

Yes - AGW is just one theory supported by the media.

Yeah the media have made AGW a new religion amongst the uninformed.

What troubles me is university students have taken to the pseudoscience of AGW like a chocolate éclair, they just believe what they are being told without questioning it and if anyone dose dare to question it they might find themselves in deep water.

That's the worst part...............!

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #131 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

“AGW a theory promoted by the media” ahahahahahahaha

You really are a weird guy, Bobby! You believe implicitly a lying charlatan talking complete bull poop!

—fox flash frozen
—lake turned pink

And think you can criticise me? Cheesy

David DuByne is only a messenger -

he relies upon the global cooling theories of many scientists.

30 Top Scientists Predict Global Cooling 2015-2050

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Re: Why do some people deny AGW?
Reply #132 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:07pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

I LOVE it when Bobby criticises me. It is always a clear case of projection.

Jovial.

AGW is a theory.

Bobby can I just add at the end of your sentence

"AGW is a theory, that's been proven wrong."

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Warming by the end of this century

IPCC computer models in 1990 projected a warming……… +2.78° C / Century

Observations the last 25 years………………………….................+1.01° C / Century

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #133 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:16pm I have not quoted media, I have quoted scientific sources. NOBODY has been able to refute a single letter I have quoted. I have noticed that.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Why do some people deny AGW? Reply #134 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:18pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29^th, 2017 at 4:16pm: I have not quoted media, I have quoted scientific sources. NOBODY has been able to refute a single letter I have quoted. I have noticed that.
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