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'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged
Apr 25^th, 2017 at 6:56pm

Hierarchy is a good thing and it is everywhere. It exists among cultures, subcultures, values, it is present in ethics, science.

The recognition of the hierarchy of cultures must continue to be encouraged and the better cultures must be supported and worse cultures discouraged and stifled, according to their harm.

Western culture is not perfect precisely because of its heteronomy and its openness: it cannot arrive at a perfect state because of its inherent curiosity, quest and love of life. It has no ideal state - and that's what makes it better than all other cultures.

This is an important thing to remember on Anzac Day and every other day of the year. We should actively spread the good news that is Western secular humanism, a grateful child of Christianity, a child that has now moved out but does, as it should, keep in close touch with its roots.

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Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:06pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Culturalism now, Soren? Tsk, tsk, all cultures are essentially equal. They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit. No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time. How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren? Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created? Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:25pm So bwian.... all cultures are essentially equal are they. Prove it.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43392	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:24pm Grendel wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:25pm: So bwian.... all cultures are essentially equal are they. Prove it. Look around you, Geoff. Look around you, with an honest eye. All those cultures, equal and happily getting along.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #4 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:32pm yeah. Except for the ones inequal and not getting along.
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Reply #5 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 7:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:06pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Culturalism now, Soren? Tsk, tsk, all cultures are essentially equal. They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit. No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time. How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren? Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created? Roll Eyes

While there may be no objective measure, that doesn't matter. Everyone judges. Everyone has their own interests and biases. People will form judgments anyway. Despite 40 years of dominating education and trying to eliminate judgement in this area, many people still judge. There's a lesson in that if you're willing to learn.

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Reply #6 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 8:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:06pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Culturalism now, Soren? Tsk, tsk, all cultures are essentially equal. They provide for their adherents the requirements to order their lives as they see fit. No culture is superior to any other culture - at the same time. How do you measure the supposed superiority of one culture over another, Soren? Do you have a little meter which you pull out to sense whether or not a culture is performing up to some specification you've created? Roll Eyes

You introduced the term Culturalism, fathead.

And cultures are not all essentially the same. You can judge a culture by the institutions it comes up with, the gods (values, ideals, aspirations) it creates, the standards it imposes, the opportunities it provides, the art it produces, the influence it has and how it achieves that influence.

Cultures are self-evidently not the same in any of these respects, or in any other, for that matter. It takes a militantly ignorant fathead to say that all cultures are essentially the same. The entire history of humanity is a history of the struggle of competing cultures.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #7 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 2:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 6:24pm: Grendel wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 4:25pm: So bwian.... all cultures are essentially equal are they. Prove it. Look around you, Geoff. Look around you, with an honest eye. All those cultures, equal and happily getting along. Wassup bwian no proof?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43392	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 8:56pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Such a waste of time and effort.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20980 Gordon Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #9 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 9:07pm If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture. Good or bad?
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #10 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 9:10pm at least the trains would run on time.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 49747 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #11 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 9:40pm The future with Muslim immigration: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2017/04/canadas-future.html But she's got the hijab so she is OK. And sox and thongs, of course. Electricity for an electric lawn mower is entirely optional, inshallah.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 49747 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #12 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:18pm In Sweden, only Swedes are not allowed to love their own country.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43392	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #13 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 6:51pm Gordon wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 9:07pm: If Nazis won the war it would be an established culture. Good or bad? Always remember, "the victors write the history, after the war is over", Gordon. I don't doubt you'd be over-joyous as would be others here. Tsk, tsk,
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: 'Culturalism' is to be strongly encouraged Reply #14 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 1:02pm LOL.... more crap bwian? Really? In a globalised world bwian the truth is much harder to hide. One reason you keep falling flat on your bald faced lies daily. Of course you'll claim you were unaware they were lies. LIAR... HYPOCRITE...
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