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Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests
Reply #120 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:08pm

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:05pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:59pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:57pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:55pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:48pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:42pm:

Do your own research, cods. Why not ask Mothra and others who saw it all, and ~ I think even you made a post (in the Thread) condemning what AiA was posting.

There was unanimous condemnation.

well isnt that what you would expect and yet you keep saying people and fd in particular is not condemning violence against women..

tell me the thread....can we assume AiA was banned... or wasnt he reported?... of course he was. Roll Eyes

AiA was not banned.

why not did you or aussie report him???>

after all if it was bad enough to bring it over into another thread...... why wasnt the original post reported??..I mean no good complaining now its too late surely..

unless aussie can use his magic?..

Who said it was not reported?

well if it was as bad as you say it was and everyone unanimously panned him for it... why wasnt he banned.. seems strange to me...

I got banned for using the liar word.. Roll Eyes

Hence my question to FD.

You up to speed now?

so you reported him to fd.. and he ignored it..

I would still like to see the post you reported him for.. for future ref you understand...

I do not like some threads AiA starts not my type of thing at all...but its what the boys like..so I leave them to it I do not take part in them.......

AiA and I have quite normal conversations on PA>>

no abuse or name calling at all.....but that doesnt mean I see eye to eye with him on everything..

I never said i reported him to FD.

And i won't say who i reported him to either.

I will keep tht information to myself.

And if it's all the same to you, i would rather not see those posts again.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39963 Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #121 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:19pm Did you report him, cods? If not, why not? After all, you said he ought be banned for what he posted.
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Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests
Reply #122 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:23pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:04pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:48pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:42pm:

Do your own research, cods. Why not ask Mothra and others who saw it all, and ~ I think even you made a post (in the Thread) condemning what AiA was posting.

There was unanimous condemnation.

well isnt that what you would expect and yet you keep saying people and fd in particular is not condemning violence against women..

tell me the thread....can we assume AiA was banned... or wasnt he reported?... of course he was. Roll Eyes

You'll have to ask the GMods about that cods, but I saw no disruption to his usual posting pattern.

well thanks for your help....the only thread that came up was the scumbag one...... where I commented I cannot find its far too long...bbut if I did I did... however I cannot see where Aia says she should be raped by everyone...in fact all I saw was mothra defending herself really good in her usual fashion...giving as good as she gets...

in some cases more so...

AiA can be not nice I grant you but I would have to see the actual post.. and no way am i trawling through that crap.

so I will have to take it with a grain of salt..

just about every thread is now about rape... why is that?

Cods:

Link.

You can apologise any time you like.
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has AiA been banned?... I would hope so..

I am sorry to say this but I dont engage much with AiA I dont care for his kind of language....its usually douible meaning stuff and not for me..

its a shame.. I havent read what has transpired I can only guess its not nice at all...

but its nice to see you guys sticking up for mothra....

she seems a tough lady and manages to protect herself....but everyone needs support when it goes over the line...

so well done everyone.. Smiley

got it aussie page 6.... yes he did say some strong things but so did mothra she even talks about him putting word in her vagina...

if he didnt get banned then its because I would say mothra held her own...she returned fire with fire...

and well done to her...nothing wrong with that,... but when you aussie are criticising someone at least get the whole context right

as I said we all know your history with AiA.. Roll Eyes

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the conversation should never have got to that level...mothra you do yourself no favours by answering back and forth....he was as far as i can see talking about verbal rape and that you enjoy a good stoush...

I dont kn ow if thats bannable..its not up to me...

but fd would take the whole page into account...

and then draw a conclusion I dont think it would mean he condones real life rape of any women..

get it into perspective..

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Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests
Reply #123 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:25pm

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:04pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:48pm:

cods wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:42pm:

Do your own research, cods. Why not ask Mothra and others who saw it all, and ~ I think even you made a post (in the Thread) condemning what AiA was posting.

There was unanimous condemnation.

well isnt that what you would expect and yet you keep saying people and fd in particular is not condemning violence against women..

tell me the thread....can we assume AiA was banned... or wasnt he reported?... of course he was. Roll Eyes

You'll have to ask the GMods about that cods, but I saw no disruption to his usual posting pattern.

well thanks for your help....the only thread that came up was the scumbag one...... where I commented I cannot find its far too long...bbut if I did I did... however I cannot see where Aia says she should be raped by everyone...in fact all I saw was mothra defending herself really good in her usual fashion...giving as good as she gets...

in some cases more so...

AiA can be not nice I grant you but I would have to see the actual post.. and no way am i trawling through that crap.

so I will have to take it with a grain of salt..

just about every thread is now about rape... why is that?

Cods:

Link.

You can apologise any time you like.
Quote:

has AiA been banned?... I would hope so..

I am sorry to say this but I dont engage much with AiA I dont care for his kind of language....its usually douible meaning stuff and not for me..

its a shame.. I havent read what has transpired I can only guess its not nice at all...

but its nice to see you guys sticking up for mothra....

she seems a tough lady and manages to protect herself....but everyone needs support when it goes over the line...

so well done everyone.. Smiley

got it aussie page 6.... yes he did say some strong things but so did mothra she even talks about him putting word in her vagina...

if he didnt get banned then its because I would say mothra held her own...she returned fire with fire...

and well done to her...nothing wrong with that,... but when you aussie are criticising someone at least get the whole context right

as I said we all know your history with AiA.. Roll Eyes

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the conversation should never have got to that level...mothra you do yourself no favours by answering back and forth....he was as far as i can see talking about verbal rape and that you enjoy a good stoush...

I dont kn ow if thats bannable..its not up to me...

but fd would take the whole page into account...

and then draw a conclusion I dont think it would mean he condones real life rape of any women..

get it into perspective..

An incredibly biased interpretation. But look who it' coming from.

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Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests
Reply #124 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:30pm

cods, here is where it started:

AiA:

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You come here day in and day out to get your feelings raped. But you can't rape the willing, now can you Mothra? So I have to assume that you are actually lying on your back and enjoying it.

And that has nothing whatever to do with any history of any kind between me and AiA.

That is AiA doing it all by himself and you wanted him banned for it.

Did you report it cods? If not, why not?

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Reply #125 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:34pm

As mothball has seen fit to bring my name up, this is the gist of what I posted in regard to her lies about being raped:

What Mothball actually said (completely out of the blue) was that she was GANG raped, and I said I thought she was lying. I was of the opinion that any woman who had actually suffered such horror would NOT post about it on a public Internet forum, and I am still of that opinion. I think she fabricated it in her misguided attempt to solicit sympathy. She couldn’t help herself previously by posting that she was a ‘street kid’, and then went on to say she’d attended a number of private schools, which seemed to me to be somewhat inconsistent with a life ‘on the streets’.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22008 Gordon Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #126 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:37pm I think it's time for an intermission. Please enjoy this lovely song.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39963 Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #127 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:41pm I wonder if Effendi will now reconsider his most inappropriate comments in this Thread?
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Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests
Reply #128 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:41pm

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:34pm:

As mothball has seen fit to bring my name up, this is the gist of what I posted in regard to her lies about being raped:

What Mothball actually said (completely out of the blue) was that she was GANG raped, and I said I thought she was lying. I was of the opinion that any woman who had actually suffered such horror would NOT post about it on a public Internet forum, and I am still of that opinion. I think she fabricated it in her misguided attempt to solicit sympathy. She couldn’t help herself previously by posting that she was a ‘street kid’, and then went on to say she’d attended a number of private schools, which seemed to me to be somewhat inconsistent with a life ‘on the streets’.

As has been explained to you, there are many years of school.

Do you think private school kids never end up on the streets? Can you think of any reasons why that might have happened to me? Do you think it's something reserved for public school kids or something?

And i have never lied. I did not state that i was raped to garner sympathy. I stated it to convey the concepts of resilience, perseverance and empathy. I was, at the time, accused of not understanding how a victim of crime felt because i was defending the idea that people should be treated humanely, whatever they have done.

And why shouldn't i talk about it Fireball? Do you think i should be ashamed?

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #129 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:44pm I still do not believe you.
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Reply #130 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:46pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:41pm:

I wonder if Effendi will now reconsider his most inappropriate comments in this Thread?

FD back down? Never!

He's still accusing me of defending the "command" in the Quran to beat women. Despite my repeated and categorical condemnation of it.

Now he's accused me of making up that i was raped, i can'r see him backing down. He'll defend it til he's blue in the face. However abusive and utterly dismissive it is.

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36832 Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #131 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:47pm Fuzzball wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:44pm: I still do not believe you. That is your choice. it is based entirely on prejudice and not feasibility however. You're just going to have to own that.
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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36832 Gender:	Re: using violence to disrupt legitimate protests Reply #132 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:58pm Furthermore Fireball, and his question applies to FD also. What if you're wrong? Do you think using rape against me is humane? Do you think accusing me of making it up is not violation? What if you're wrong? You can't be certain. You are simply guessing. .
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Reply #133 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 9:18pm

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:14pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 6:06pm:

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then fabricating a story about being raped in order to garner sympathy and deflect from your support for violence and misogynistic ideologies?

Your ignorance and complete lack of empathy knows no bounds, Effendi.

There is another female Member here who has experienced terrible male violence, and I know what she has posted is 100% true...even down to case citations and knowing the Lawyers involved.

Some people are not lying, Effendi.

How do you think she would feel about Mothra's drama queening?

You brought rape into this. You are being held to account for your trivialising of rape. You are being held to account for your allowance of male members to use rape against female forum members.

You.

You brought it up Mothra. Right here. Out of the blue:

mothra wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 10:03am:

i would go so far as to say that women who take part in protests deserve to be raped.

Was Aussie correct that you were referring to being "verbally raped"?

That's a pretty weird thing to resort to to avoid a simple question. You failed in claiming victimhood on behalf of a violent woman, so you resorted to pretending you were a victim of rape?

Mothra, what do you think of people who turn up to other groups' protests with the express intention of using violence to disrupt them?

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Reply #134 - Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 9:28pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2017 at 7:30pm:

cods, here is where it started:

AiA:

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You come here day in and day out to get your feelings raped. But you can't rape the willing, now can you Mothra? So I have to assume that you are actually lying on your back and enjoying it.

And that has nothing whatever to do with any history of any kind between me and AiA.

That is AiA doing it all by himself and you wanted him banned for it.

Did you report it cods? If not, why not?

well let me ask you ... as you seem to have read it.. which I didnt..

and yes you do have bad history with AiA and I find your interest in this issue to be rather strange thats all..

like I said you have only shown the post he made not anything that led up to it...everything has two sides to it aussie can you explain how I would report a post I had never seen???????.....

shouldnt you be asking fd why he chose not to ban AiA after all he was reported for personal abuse...I am assuming it was to fd as he is getting abused for not being sympathetic...... I dont use the word RAPE I do not wish to talk about it either I will leave that to yourself..... there are a few versions of rape...I believe there is even a rapeseed...

why are you discussing this with me and not AiA whom you enjoy taking to task... isnt he usually aboard at this time.. Roll Eyes

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