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UnSubRocky Gold Member Online In your damn fate Posts: 26636 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: What has North Korea done? Reply #210 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:23pm I have often wondered how North Korea got into the mess that it did in the last 60 years. I managed to get a book on the subject "Target North Korea", but I have not read it all. I seriously need to read up on recent Middle Eastern and North Korean history.
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Reply #211 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:31pm

Could tensions turn into war in North Korea?

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By Joshua Berlinger and Brad Lendon, CNN

Updated 0741 GMT (1541 HKT) April 26, 2017

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/26/asia/north-korea-chance-of-war/index.html

(CNN)US warships and submarines are on the move. North Korea has carried out its largest ever live-fire drill. Washington and Pyongyang are trading inflammatory rhetoric on a weekly basis.
With all of this, it's hard to know if war is actually imminent or if these are the growing pains of US President Donald Trump's new administration figuring out how to deal with North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un.
Daily reports of the fragile situation fuel worries that war is imminent. But, has it really reached a point of no return?

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Reply #212 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 8:32pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

I have often wondered how North Korea got into the mess that it did in the last 60 years. I managed to get a book on the subject "Target North Korea", but I have not read it all. I seriously need to read up on recent Middle Eastern and North Korean history.

It's basically the eastern version of Germany. After WWII, the Russians got the north and made it a communist paradise. The US turned the south into a liberal democracy. The result was pretty much inevitable.

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Reply #213 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 8:38pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

I have often wondered how North Korea got into the mess that it did in the last 60 years. I managed to get a book on the subject "Target North Korea", but I have not read it all. I seriously need to read up on recent Middle Eastern and North Korean history.

It's basically the eastern version of Germany. After WWII, the Russians got the north and made it a communist paradise. The US turned the south into a liberal democracy. The result was pretty much inevitable.

Great. Let them get on with it without us getting in the way.

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Reply #215 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:37am

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/pictures-show-north-korea-on-warfoot...

NORTH Korea has released alarming photographs of its artillery drill this week that depict the rogue state showing off its considerable firepower.

In a defiant response, South Korea has announced that key parts of a US missile defence system have been installed to defend itself from any provocation from the North.

Pyongyang conducted its “largest ever” military demonstration near the eastern coastal town of Wonsan on Tuesday to mark the 85th anniversary of the founding of the Korean People’s Army.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un supervised the display and gave the order to start the fire demonstration, according the state-funded Korean Central News Agency (KCNA).

The display included 300 “large-calibre” self-propelled guns lining up along a beach and firing all at once.

The drill was designed to simulate an attack on enemy warships and also involved submarines firing torpedoes and low-flying jets dropping bombs.

KCNA, which is responsible for distributing Pyongyang propaganda, said Mr Kim was pleased with the display.

“Watching the exciting scenery, he praised the seamen of submarines and pilots for hitting targets every time,” the agency wrote.

“The brave artillerymen mercilessly and satisfactorily hit the targets and the gunshots were very correct, he said, adding that they showed well the volley of gunfire of our a-match-for-a-hundred artillery force giving merciless punishment to the hostile forces.”

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Reply #216 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:40am

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

I see that nobody has been able to answer your questions yet.

Interesting.

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Reply #217 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:29pm

cods wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:37am:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/pictures-show-north-korea-on-warfoot...

NORTH Korea has released alarming photographs of its artillery drill this week that depict the rogue state showing off its considerable firepower.

.. and they threatened to loose that on urban areas such as Seoul, filled with civilians... gutless twerps. Fat Boy has declared his intent to use total war - no more reason need be found to clobber the d1ck.

What a pity ten echelons of B-52s heavily escorted, didn't carpet bomb that beach.....

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Reply #218 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

I see that nobody has been able to answer your questions yet.

Interesting.

Some of us have been busy....

One answer - what right does a sovereign nation have to even suggest it might hit Darwin?

I don't see any aggressive act in demanding that a state curtail its weapons programs backed up by threats - I see a deliberate aggressive act in stating the near-intent to attack a nation far removed in locality and which has done nothing to that state.

If Fat Boy hit Darwin Hong, the Chinese would obliterate him for us.... and long overdue.

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Reply #219 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:45pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

I see that nobody has been able to answer your questions yet.

Interesting.

Some of us have been busy....

One answer - what right does a sovereign nation have to even suggest it might hit Darwin?

I don't see any aggressive act in demanding that a state curtail its weapons programs backed up by threats - I see a deliberate aggressive act in stating the near-intent to attack a nation far removed in locality and which has done nothing to that state.

If Fat Boy hit Darwin Hong, the Chinese would obliterate him for us.... and long overdue.

Because they can. Simple statement of fact.

Just like it is fact that the USA Bully Boy is positioning his toys on the doorstep of North Korea to let them know he can whack them.

If you can manage to not take a 'side' in all this, like I have, you might see it differently.

Mind you....if that fat dumbarse kid did actually lift an aggressive hand, I'd be the first to nuke his sorry arse.

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Reply #220 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 5:42am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27^th, 2017 at 10:40am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

I see that nobody has been able to answer your questions yet.

Interesting.

When the dominant power structure is threatened then an intervention becomes necessary. The USA intervening unnecessarily does no one, especially America, any good. But the USA retreating back into its pre-WWI isolationism does no one any good either ... and that was what Trump was promising his supporters just a short time ago - "America First" was his slogan.

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Reply #221 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 6:23am

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

This sounds a lot like Brians "we have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions".

Aussie would you really sacrifice South Korea to this idiotic notion of justice?

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Reply #222 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 7:18am

freediver wrote on Apr 28^th, 2017 at 6:23am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

They haven't been able to handle their country being divided after 60+ plus years and they aim to have it put back together under communism. That's what they are heading to do. So they want nukes to keep America out of their plans.

Who gives a flying ferk what goes on in that Sovereign State? It is none of our business, and the sooner we understand that it is not our place to bully other Countries with threats of military intervention the safer this World will be.

What right does America have to play any part if their plans for their Country? What right does the West have to tell other Sovereign States what toys they are allowed to have in their play pen? Uncle Sam has his, we have ours, so why can't everyone else?

This sounds a lot like Brians "we have no right or even ability to criticise other countries and religions".

Aussie would you really sacrifice South Korea to this idiotic notion of justice?

maybe when Kim boy gets one of his rockets to reach Fairfax in Qld..... some might take a different view....

as it is its mainly Japan and Sth Korea who need to maybe be on alert...

and who the hell cares about them.. Sad

let Kim boy have his toys do we really need all countries be on the same page when it comes to Nuclear Weaponry... of course not.. Cheesy

and everyone knows hes mad.. nothing to worry about at all..

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: What has North Korea done? Reply #223 - Apr 28^th, 2017 at 7:19am fd you just havent got the same level of "faith" thats all.
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