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A new El Nino already?
Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:03am
 
Signs are not clear, but they never are this early in an El Nino:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/climate/el-nino-climate-change.html

If it is another El Nino be prepared for more hot weather and more destructive bush fires.

Oh yeah, and idiots prattle that we are in a Little Ice Age bwahahahahahahahaha
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Reply #1 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:39am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:03am:
Signs are not clear, but they never are this early in an El Nino:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/climate/el-nino-climate-change.html

If it is another El Nino be prepared for more hot weather and more destructive bush fires.

Oh yeah, and idiots prattle that we are in a Little Ice Age bwahahahahahahahaha



And you prattle about AGW.

But apart from the headline, to get the suckers in, there is no mention of climate change,

You how how gullible you are. Just reading the headlines.

What was that about "bwahahahahahahahaha"?
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Reply #2 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 5:50pm
 
Just a suggestion, Lees: read a post before replying? Then use the appropriate boiler plate from your silly denier blogs.
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Reply #3 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:01pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
Just a suggestion, Lees: read a post before replying? Then use the appropriate boiler plate from your silly denier blogs.


Having read the post and not seeing it, I'll hazard a guess and say it is not there. Wink
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Reply #4 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:05pm
 
I have no idea what you are mumbling about there.
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Reply #5 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:40pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:05pm:
I have no idea what you are mumbling about there.



Of course not.

The link links el ninos with climate change.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/climate/el-nino-climate-change.html

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Reply #6 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 7:46pm
 
Hmmmm does it?

Isn’t the El Nino/La Nina the main source of natural variation that you are always crapping on about (without understanding?)

Nah, your mouth ran away before you read the link.
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Reply #7 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 8:19pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Hmmmm does it?

Isn’t the El Nino/La Nina the main source of natural variation that you are always crapping on about (without understanding?)

Nah, your mouth ran away before you read the link.



So you can't read a link? Why am I not surprised?

Why do you think your link reads el-nino-climate-change?
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Reply #8 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:03pm
 
So, if we do have a new El Nino this summer that will be pretty unique, right?

Means high global temperatures, another record high temperature year.

And some charlies think we are in an Ice Age!  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
So, if we do have a new El Nino this summer that will be pretty unique, right?


You realise if it has happened before it is not unique. There is no such thing as "pretty unique". It is either unique or it is not.

And No, it would not be unique.

From your reference -

"Mike Halpert, deputy director of NOAA’s Climate Prediction Center in College Park, Md., said that since climate scientists have been studying the phenomenon, a swing from El Niño to La Niña and back to El Niño in such a short time — about three years — has happened only once, in the 1960s."

Of course that is only recorded, it is hard to imagine that is the only previous occasion.

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Reply #10 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:51pm
 
Yup, pretty unique   Smiley
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Reply #11 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:58am
 
Nope.Not pretty, not unique. Grin
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Reply #12 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:17am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:03am:
Signs are not clear, but they never are this early in an El Nino:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/climate/el-nino-climate-change.html

If it is another El Nino be prepared for more hot weather and more destructive bush fires.

Oh yeah, and idiots prattle that we are in a Little Ice Age bwahahahahahahahaha


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Reply #13 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Wasn't the 1960's the date of the global cooling scare?

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Reply #14 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
Nice poem, Ajax!

But things are getting worse as the country warms.

–More extreme weather events

–Longer bush fire season (basically, Aug–April)

–The GBR dying, see;
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2017/04/15/killing-the-great-b...

AGW is here, it is caused by GHGs we emit, especially CO2 and methane.
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Reply #15 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
–The GBR dying, see;
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2017/04/15/killing-the-great-b...



"That’s because corals are extremely sensitive to temperature change."

The little darlings are so sensitive they have only survived about 400m years.

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"The journal article makes for frightening reading. More than two-thirds of the coral on one 300-kilometre-long section of the reef is dead."

How did they determine the reef was dead?

"It’s too early to assess mortality from this summer’s bleaching. It takes months before it can be determined whether bleached corals will recover or die."

So just a pliable commentator.  Only months?
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Reply #17 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:15am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
Nice poem, Ajax!

But things are getting worse as the country warms.

–More extreme weather events

–Longer bush fire season (basically, Aug–April)

–The GBR dying, see;
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2017/04/15/killing-the-great-b...

AGW is here, it is caused by GHGs we emit, especially CO2 and methane.


The Earth has warmed but as our history shows warming and cooling cycles are a normal part of the Earth's weather system.

As our recent history shows we have had many warming and cooling cycles

a. 30-years of global cooling from 1880 to 1910
b. 30-years of global warming from 1910 to 1940
c. 30-years of global cooling from 1940 to 1970
d. 30-years of global warming from 1970 to 2000

Weren't these same nut jobs calling for a little ice age in the early 1970's because we had 30 years of global cooling.

Now when you have some evidence that CO2 controls temperature here on Earth please don't hesitate in sharing it with everyone......... Smiley

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Reply #18 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am
 
The world has warmed from about the 1850s. While there have been peaks followed by declines the overall trend has clearly been warming.

I have posted spectrometry charts showing that the IR spectrum of IR originating from the Earth has “gaps” in it corresponding to CO2 and methane (and smaller gaps for the other GHGs.)

So some of the radiation from the sun is blocked by water vapor and the GHGs from escaping back to space. That is why the globe is heating up.

Now it appears a new El Nino is already forming.

By the way, Ajax, the warming from 1970s to this year happened at a time that the sun was quiescent.
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Reply #19 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:51am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am:
The world has warmed from about the 1850s. While there have been peaks followed by declines the overall trend has clearly been warming.

I have posted spectrometry charts showing that the IR spectrum of IR originating from the Earth has “gaps” in it corresponding to CO2 and methane (and smaller gaps for the other GHGs.)

So some of the radiation from the sun is blocked by water vapor and the GHGs from escaping back to space. That is why the globe is heating up.

Now it appears a new El Nino is already forming.

By the way, Ajax, the warming from 1970s to this year happened at a time that the sun was quiescent.


Temperatures are going up because we are coming out of the LIA, again it has nothing to do with CO2.

Even today we have some of the lowest temperatures and atmospheric CO2 in our history or what we can make from the data we have collected.

Both will go up and down in accordance with circumstances that dictate them.

Like I keep telling you

YOU CANNOT BOTTLE CLIMATE CHANGE

Climate change has been happening since day dot and will continue until the Earth is no more.... Wink

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Reply #20 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54am
 
We are way past MWP temps, Ajax.

Time to stop denying and doing some real reading.
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Reply #21 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54am:
We are way past MWP temps, Ajax.

Time to stop denying and doing some real reading.


Medieval warm period warmer than today.


Dahl_Jensen et al 1998
Wagner & Melles 2001
Kaplan et al 2002
Jiang et al 2002
Moore et al 2001
Grudd et al 2002
Seppa & Birks 2002
Dansgaard et al 1975
Korhola et al 2000
Naurzbaev et al 2002
Vaganov et el 1996
Briffa et al 1998
Scweingruber & Briffa 1996
Knudsen et al 2004
Grinsted et al 2006
Besonen et al 2008
Wagner et al 2008
Vare et al 2009
Norgaard-Pedersen & Mikkelsen 2009
Andresen et al 2004
Vinther et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2008
Stuiver et al 1995
Dansgaard et al 1975
Jenings & Weiner 1996
Johnsen et al 2001
Vinther et al 2010
Larsen et al 2011
Hill et al 2001
Joynt & Wolfe 2001
Hantemirov & Shiyatov 2002
Andersson et al 2003
Helama et al 2005
Mazepa 2005
Weckstrom et al 2006
Jiang et al 2007
Zabenski & Gajewski 2007
Grudd 2008
Justwan et al 2008
Scire et al 2008
Axford et al 2009
Bjune et al 2009
Cook et al 2009
Fortin & Gajewski 2010
Buntgen et al 2011
Divine et al 2011
Ran et al 2011
Velle et al 2011
D’Andrea et al 2012
Esper et al 2012


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Reply #22 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am:
The world has warmed from about the 1850s.



Due to hindcasting temperatures for about 100 years. Hindcasting is not data,Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am:
I have posted spectrometry charts showing that the IR spectrum of IR originating from the Earth has “gaps” in it corresponding to CO2 and methane (and smaller gaps for the other GHGs.)



You have not shown a comparison. What makes you think the spectrometry is unique?

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am:
Now it appears a new El Nino is already forming.


From your reference -3

"El Niño forecasts are based on computer models of the global climate. Mr. Halpert said those models were somewhat at odds with the conditions forecasters were observing."

They show considerably more doubt than you. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:37am:
By the way, Ajax, the warming from 1970s to this year happened at a time that the sun was quiescent.


JM show he doesn't understand visible light heating anything. Wink
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Reply #23 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:44pm
 
Ajax wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54am:
We are way past MWP temps, Ajax.

Time to stop denying and doing some real reading.


Medieval warm period warmer than today.


Dahl_Jensen et al 1998
Wagner & Melles 2001
Kaplan et al 2002
Jiang et al 2002
Moore et al 2001
Grudd et al 2002
Seppa & Birks 2002
Dansgaard et al 1975
Korhola et al 2000
Naurzbaev et al 2002
Vaganov et el 1996
Briffa et al 1998
Scweingruber & Briffa 1996
Knudsen et al 2004
Grinsted et al 2006
Besonen et al 2008
Wagner et al 2008
Vare et al 2009
Norgaard-Pedersen & Mikkelsen 2009
Andresen et al 2004
Vinther et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2008
Stuiver et al 1995
Dansgaard et al 1975
Jenings & Weiner 1996
Johnsen et al 2001
Vinther et al 2010
Larsen et al 2011
Hill et al 2001
Joynt & Wolfe 2001
Hantemirov & Shiyatov 2002
Andersson et al 2003
Helama et al 2005
Mazepa 2005
Weckstrom et al 2006
Jiang et al 2007
Zabenski & Gajewski 2007
Grudd 2008
Justwan et al 2008
Scire et al 2008
Axford et al 2009
Bjune et al 2009
Cook et al 2009
Fortin & Gajewski 2010
Buntgen et al 2011
Divine et al 2011
Ran et al 2011
Velle et al 2011
D’Andrea et al 2012
Esper et al 2012


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You can post your voodoo charms all you like to ward off AGW, it is still going on, Ajax.
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Reply #24 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:44pm:
You can post your voodoo charms all you like to ward off AGW, it is still going on, Ajax.



Yep You just don't like a dash of realism with your delusions, Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm
 
I don’t recall any scare about global cooling in the 1960s but scientists may have been concerned aerosols (sulphuric acid etc) in the upper atmosphere may reflect sunlight leading to cooling.

But CO2 was known to be a greenhouse gas so I doubt there was widespread concern. Probably some reporter blew something someone said way out of proportion.

However, volcanic eruptions do put aerosols high up in the atmosphere, causing some temporary cooling, one source of natural variation.
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Reply #26 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:35am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
I don’t recall any scare about global cooling in the 1960s but scientists may have been concerned aerosols (sulphuric acid etc) in the upper atmosphere may reflect sunlight leading to cooling.


http://notrickszone.com/2016/09/13/massive-cover-up-exposed-285-papers-from-1960...

Selective memory? If you look at the right hand of the page there are 3 pages of peer-reviewed articles.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
But CO2 was known to be a greenhouse gas so I doubt there was widespread concern. Probably some reporter blew something someone said way out of proportion.


258 peer-reviewed  papers. This is not the Garudian. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
However, volcanic eruptions do put aerosols high up in the atmosphere, causing some temporary cooling, one source of natural variation.


Very good. Now link these volcanic eruptions to that time period. Wink
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Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:40am
 
lee wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
"That’s because corals are extremely sensitive to temperature change."

The little darlings are so sensitive they have only survived about 400m years.





Umm, this would be interesting if it was the truth. The earliest evidence of complete coral structures is only 600,000 years and the growth of the current reef only began at the end of the last Glacial maximum (approx 27,000 years ago)
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:40am:
Umm, this would be interesting if it was the truth. The earliest evidence of complete coral structures is only 600,000 years and the growth of the current reef only began at the end of the last Glacial maximum (approx 27,000 years ago)


Of course you have a reference for that? Although the Great Barrier Reef marine Park says so in relation to GBR. But GBR is not the only coral reef.

And it has not been warmer in that time?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:40am:
Umm, this would be interesting if it was the truth. The earliest evidence of complete coral structures is only 600,000 years and the growth of the current reef only began at the end of the last Glacial maximum (approx 27,000 years ago)


Of course you have a reference for that? Although the Great Barrier Reef marine Park says so in relation to GBR. But GBR is not the only coral reef.

And it has not been warmer in that time?



https://web.archive.org/web/20070620013057/http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/__data/asset...
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070620013057/http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/__data/asset...



Yes. I saw that.

From your reference -

"Setting the scene... an update on the age of the Reef

We have sourced the latest information available on the age of the Great Barrier Reef. Stay tuned though, because we’re
expecting this information to change as more research is undertaken.

These are the significant dates you should be talking about when explaining the age of the Great Barrier Reef:
•  While corals have existed on the Great Barrier Reef for as long as 25 million years, they didn’t form large structured reefs like those we see today.
•  The earliest record we have of complete reef structures (like those we see today) is from 600 000 years ago."

So that is about the Great Barrier Reef (GBR). So these new "structured reefs", how did they form? Are they any different from other world reefs?

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lee wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070620013057/http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/__data/asset...



Yes. I saw that.

From your reference -

"Setting the scene... an update on the age of the Reef

We have sourced the latest information available on the age of the Great Barrier Reef. Stay tuned though, because we’re
expecting this information to change as more research is undertaken.

These are the significant dates you should be talking about when explaining the age of the Great Barrier Reef:
•  While corals have existed on the Great Barrier Reef for as long as 25 million years, they didn’t form large structured reefs like those we see today.
•  The earliest record we have of complete reef structures (like those we see today) is from 600 000 years ago."

So that is about the Great Barrier Reef (GBR). So these new "structured reefs", how did they form? Are they any different from other world reefs?



How would I know, I was only debating the 400 million year comment


My only interest in coral reefs really is once they've stopped being coral reefs and turned into limestone.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:19pm:
How would I know, I was only debating the 400 million year comment



But your quote of 600,000 years seems to apply only to GBR structures. They didn't link to any scientific research from which they got their data, So I have to assume it is theirs.
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ENSO neutral, but tropical Pacific waters continue to warm
The El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) remains neutral. However the Bureau's ENSO Outlook is currently at El Niño WATCH, meaning there is around a 50% chance—twice the normal likelihood—of El Niño developing in 2017.
Tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures (SSTs) have warmed since the start of the year. SSTs in the central tropical Pacific are now 0.5 °C warmer than average, still below the +0.8 °C threshold for El Niño levels. Atmospheric indicators of ENSO remain firmly neutral, although the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) has returned to negative values over the past fortnight.

International climate models suggest the tropical Pacific Ocean is likely to continue warming in the coming months, though in recent weeks some models have reduced the expected extent of warming. Five of eight models indicate that sea surface temperatures will exceed El Niño thresholds during the second half of 2017; a reduction of two models since the last Wrap-Up release. It should be noted that models have lower accuracy at this time of year.

El Niño is often, but not always, associated with below average winter–spring rainfall over eastern Australia. Of the 27 El Niño events since 1900, 18 resulted in widespread dry conditions for parts of Australia.

The Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) is currently neutral. Four out of six climate models suggest a positive IOD is likely during winter. When a positive IOD coincides with El Niño, the typical El Niño dry signal expands, and generally stretches further west over eastern and central Australia.


http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
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50% chance eh? Grin Grin Grin
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Pretty good at this stage of an El Nino year.
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I wouldn't even put your money on it at Ladbrokes. Wink
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9 May 2017

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Models reduce likelihood of El Niño for 2017 but tropical Pacific Ocean warmer than average.

The tropical Pacific is currently El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) neutral. Despite the likelihood for El Niño easing in some models, an event in 2017 cannot be ruled out. The Bureau's ENSO Outlook remains at El Niño WATCH, meaning there is around a 50% chance that El Niño may develop in the coming months.

Sea surface temperatures in the tropical Pacific Ocean have warmed since the start of the year, but remain below El Niño thresholds. Some other atmospheric indicators have shifted over the past fortnight, but also remain below El Niño levels.

Some international climate models have reduced the likelihood of El Niño this year compared to last month. However, five of eight international climate models still indicate the tropical Pacific Ocean may exceed El Niño thresholds during the second half of 2017. It should be noted that models have lower accuracy forecasting El Niño through the autumn months.


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So still 50% chance. Wink
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Yes.
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So no change. Doesn't even merit a press release. Wink
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Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28th, 2017 at 11:46am:
Pretty good at this stage of an El Nino year.



NOAA DOWNGRADES PROBABILITY OF 2017 EL NINODate: 12/05/17NOAA Climate Prediction CenterNOAA has downgraded the probability of an El Nino later this year to 46% from 51% in its April forecast and 53% in March.


Oops. Another terminal spire of climate Armageddon  by not jovial at all.

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Just reporting is all. That downgrade is fairly meaningless this far out anyway.
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Jovial Monk wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:08am:
Just reporting is all. That downgrade is fairly meaningless this far out anyway.


No. If it went up 1% you would be broadcasting your special brand of climate Armageddon all over. You are inherently dishonest.
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Just reporting is all.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:03am:
Signs are not clear, but they never are this early in an El Nino:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/climate/el-nino-climate-change.html

If it is another El Nino be prepared for more hot weather and more destructive bush fires.

Oh yeah, and idiots prattle that we are in a Little Ice Age bwahahahahahahahaha




Talk about a deadset idiot prattling on.
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“Signs are not clear”

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Jovial Monk wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 11:35am:
“Signs are not clear”



Prattling idiot still stands. Reinforced in fact.
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Don’t be so harsh on yourself!
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Jovial Monk wrote on May 13th, 2017 at 9:08am:
Just reporting is all. That downgrade is fairly meaningless this far out anyway.



But upgrades would be meaningful. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Later in the year they would be.
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Reply #51 - May 30th, 2017 at 3:14am
 
Seems as though we are getting another late start to winter. A repeat of last year, perhaps? Hopefully, if we can get some heavy winter rain in June or July, that would be excellent. Last year, the southern states were freezing their tits off. Whereas there was this Brisbane line for warmer than usual temperatures. I can't recall a night that fell below 4 degrees celsius. Most nights were no lower than 10 degrees. Seems like we are having another mild winter. One month of coldish weather, with two months of mild weather. Good luck in NSW, Victoria, ACT and South Australia. Heard how you guys were going on about really cold conditions there.
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Adelaide had a cold Sunday, mostly so far we have had an indian summer with cool nights and warm days.
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Reply #53 - May 30th, 2017 at 4:48pm
 
A forecast of a cold blast of air coming up from halfway to Antarctica. Should be really cold on the 6th of June. Interacting high and low-pressure system. High pressure in the Bight. Low-pressure system in the Tasman. Dragging cold air up from Antarctica.
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We are getting so super low pressure systems aka weather bombs from Antarctica, even in summer.
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