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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #15 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:40pm lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 10:58am: Assumption based on the evidence at hand at the time he made the comments.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21500 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #16 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:54pm John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:40pm: lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 10:58am: Assumption based on the evidence at hand at the time he made the comments. What evidence?
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Reply #17 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:17pm

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 12:39pm:

Or perhaps this -

" Plant growth can be stimulated by elevation of CO2; photosynthesis increases and economic yield is often enhanced. The application of more CO2 can increase plant water use efficiency and result in less water use."

https://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/60100500/csr/ResearchPubs/prior/prior_11a....

Thought you wouldnt like this article from the first line in the abstract

Empirical records provide incontestable evidence for the global rise in carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the
earth’s atmosphere

And even they said, you still need to screen varities for drougt resistance, and this effect has only been seen in horticultural plants, not crops or forests.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #18 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:18pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

Bolt knows, but pretends not to know, that Flannery was applying IPCC modelling and projections to (then) present circumstances in relation to reduced rainfall and that Flannery’s statement are in accordance with those. Bolt also knows that IPCC projections include intensified (i.e. more severe) but rarer flooding events, which of course would fill the dams.

BTW- There is no indication, throughout the course of the interview, that he was talking about IPCC predictions. So I guess the commentator made that up.

http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #19 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:19pm lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:54pm: What evidence? from the article I put up Flannery was applying IPCC modelling and projections to (then) present circumstances in relation to reduced rainfall and that Flannery’s statement are in accordance with those.
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Reply #20 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:25pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

Thought you wouldnt like this article from the first line in the abstract

Empirical records provide incontestable evidence for the global rise in carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the
earth’s atmosphere

And even they said, you still need to screen varities for drougt resistance, and this effect has only been seen in horticultural plants, not crops or forests.

And why wouldn't I like it. Of course you have to test an hypothesis. Have they come out and said they were wrong?

Where have I said CO2 has not risen? There is no evidence that CO2 was static at any time in our history.

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Reply #21 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:26pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

What evidence?

from the article I put up

Flannery was applying IPCC modelling and projections to (then) present circumstances in relation to reduced rainfall and that Flannery’s statement are in accordance with those.

So they re-analysed his interview, using words he didn't use, to come to a conclusion? Cheesy

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Reply #22 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:19pm:

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

What evidence?

from the article I put up

Flannery was applying IPCC modelling and projections to (then) present circumstances in relation to reduced rainfall and that Flannery’s statement are in accordance with those.

So they re-analysed his interview, using words he didn't use, to come to a conclusion? Cheesy

ask them

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Reply #23 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:28pm

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:25pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:17pm:

Thought you wouldnt like this article from the first line in the abstract

Empirical records provide incontestable evidence for the global rise in carbon dioxide (CO2) concentration in the
earth’s atmosphere

And even they said, you still need to screen varities for drougt resistance, and this effect has only been seen in horticultural plants, not crops or forests.

And why wouldn't I like it. Of course you have to test an hypothesis. Have they come out and said they were wrong?

Where have I said CO2 has not risen? There is no evidence that CO2 was static at any time in our history.

Sorry skipped the part wehre they said it was cuase by humans.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21500 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #24 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:38pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:28pm: Sorry skipped the part wehre they said it was cuase by humans. How much of it? About 96% is natural.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #25 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:38pm So no link that stressed plants need less water.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21500 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #26 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:39pm John Smith wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm: ask them Sorry not interested in asking people about re-interpreted remarks.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #27 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:40pm lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:38pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:28pm: Sorry skipped the part wehre they said it was cuase by humans. How much of it? About 96% is natural. A jump from 180ppm to 405ppm from anthropogenic sources means 96% is natural???
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21500 Gender:	Re: Even the rain that falls won't actually fill our.. Reply #28 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:41pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:38pm: So no link that stressed plants need less water. I didn't say stressed plants need less water. I said they would be less stressed.
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Reply #29 - Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:43pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:

lee wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 4^th, 2017 at 3:28pm:

Sorry skipped the part wehre they said it was cuase by humans.

How much of it? About 96% is natural.

A jump from 180ppm to 405ppm from anthropogenic sources means 96% is natural???

That's what the science says. Disprove it denier. Wink

What do you mean "jump". 150years.

Where do you get 180ppm from. The earliest we have is 278ppm according to AGW theory.

Plants start to die about 180ppm.

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