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The NATO spongers
Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 7:13am

Only 4 countries in Europe meet the agreed defence budget of 2% of GDP - Poland, Estonia, UK and Greece.
The rest are sponging off the US taxpayer. The worst is Germany because it is the wealthiest nation in Europe.
And Germany is mounting this argument of deflection to justify its refusal to meet the target. It says other expenditure should be recognised as the equivalent to actual military spending, such as aid to undeveloped countries in the ME and North Africa.

What they really mean is, when they get another million immigrants, they want to write off the cost of supporting them as defence spending and continue to have the American taxpayer hold their hand against Russia.

Trump won't buy that one.

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #1 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:08am After the US, GB contributes the most to Nato, financially and manpower-wise......
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #2 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:21am Looking at your Enoch Powell quote there, I am reminded of a play called The Long Sunset, about the the time the last legions left Britain and the immediate bleak future for the remaining Roman citizens.
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Reply #3 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:25am

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 7:13am:

Only 4 countries in Europe meet the agreed defence budget of 2% of GDP - Poland, Estonia, UK and Greece.
The rest are sponging off the US taxpayer. The worst is Germany because it is the wealthiest nation in Europe.
And Germany is mounting this argument of deflection to justify its refusal to meet the target. It says other expenditure should be recognised as the equivalent to actual military spending, such as aid to undeveloped countries in the ME and North Africa.

What they really mean is, when they get another million immigrants, they want to write off the cost of supporting them as defence spending and continue to have the American taxpayer hold their hand against Russia.

Trump won't buy that one.

I would not either.

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Enquiring mind Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104582	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #4 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:15pm What does Germany's sovereign military budget have to do with the US? I'm curious. We'll flesh this one out, shall we?
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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #5 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:56pm Enquiring mind wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:15pm: What does Germany's sovereign military budget have to do with the US? I'm curious. We'll flesh this one out, shall we? Nothing at all, if they want to protect themselves with their 'sovereign military', but if they want to remain part of NATO they have to pay their way.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #6 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:48pm Be patient with the Karnal, Fireball. Its understanding of international affairs is limited.
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Reply #7 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 7:55pm

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:56pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:15pm:

What does Germany's sovereign military budget have to do with the US?

I'm curious. We'll flesh this one out, shall we?

Nothing at all.

That's what I thought, Matty. So why is Bogie cutting and pasting Mr Trump'sy Tweets? Bogie's a German, you know.

Do you think Bogie's trying to outsource the Wehrmacht to the US? Is he trying to get the Reichtstag moved to Washington?

Or do you think he just wants a cut of all those valuable US defence contracts?

I'm curious. Bogie doesn't appear to want to say. Loose lips sink ships, eh?

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6384 Australia Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #8 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:54pm Why are you such a fvvkwit?
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #9 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 6:53am The question in my mind is why is NATO not deployed to repel the African invasion from across the Mediterranean and the ME invasion through Turkey. Do the peoples of Europe have a death wish? More on the Italian situation later.
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Re: The NATO spongers
Reply #10 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 7:13am

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 6:53am:

The question in my mind is why is NATO not deployed to repel the African invasion from across the Mediterranean and the ME invasion through Turkey.
Do the peoples of Europe have a death wish?
More on the Italian situation later.

Angela will lose the elections this year & we'll have a new policy in Germany.

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Reply #11 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 8:24am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 7:13am:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 6:53am:

The question in my mind is why is NATO not deployed to repel the African invasion from across the Mediterranean and the ME invasion through Turkey.
Do the peoples of Europe have a death wish?
More on the Italian situation later.

Angela will lose the elections this year & we'll have a new policy in Germany.

It may very well be too late, she has caused the problems in Europe with the many thousands of illegals she allowed in to placate the chimp who left The Whitehouse earlier this year. The road to hell is paved with good intentions........of which she had none.

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Reply #12 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 9:33am

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 6:53am:

The question in my mind is why is NATO not deployed to repel the African invasion from across the Mediterranean and the ME invasion through Turkey.
Do the peoples of Europe have a death wish?
More on the Italian situation later.

Because it's not a military problem, Bogie. It's a humanitarian one. Mind you, if what you're saying is NATO should be deployed to shoot fleeing men, women and children out of the water, no problem.

We will make the North Atlantic great again, no?

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Reply #13 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 10:16am

Fuzzball wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 7:13am:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 6:53am:

The question in my mind is why is NATO not deployed to repel the African invasion from across the Mediterranean and the ME invasion through Turkey.
Do the peoples of Europe have a death wish?
More on the Italian situation later.

Angela will lose the elections this year & we'll have a new policy in Germany.

It may very well be too late, she has caused the problems in Europe with the many thousands of illegals she allowed in to placate the chimp who left The Whitehouse earlier this year. The road to hell is paved with good intentions........of which she had none.

Germany should be FOR Germany

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 42379 Gender:	Re: The NATO spongers Reply #14 - Apr 3^rd, 2017 at 10:16am What has NATO achieved? At what cost?
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