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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #90 - Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:39pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:54am:
many blessings sad kangaroo ..

do you think MSNBC is credible ?


so in short... you didnt read what he wrote. Or didnt understand it.


*sigh*

It would appear not.

Let's try a shorter version that won't overwhelm him and he might actually read.

There are some news sources that consistently post more factual and verifiable news and articles than others, but just because an outlet may have a great track record, it doesn't mean that each and every publication is free from error or bias.

I can't answer your question and I don't think anyone can because you're asking the wrong question.  The outlet plays a part in the equation but ultimately each article needs to be judged individually.

There are certainly less trustworthy sources than others. 

To *try* and answer it, I would consider outlets that conduct more reporting of events rather than opinion more credible than those who start out with a predetermined position and only report favourable in that way unless absolutely forced to post against that. 

An example of the latter would be Fox News, but then they peddle more opinion presented as fact than they do straight up reporting.

That said, each article no matter the source should be fact checked and never taken as face value because one considered their publisher "credible".

It's not a team sport, it's not politics.  Be it Main Stream Media or a basement dweller posting "TRUTH" videos on YouTube, they are only as credible as their last release.

It's almost like a film maker or actor, they're only as good as their last performance.


Like most intelligent people, I dont believe that the MSM is free from error. I do however, beleive them to be free of DELIBERATE error and that is the big difference. I know that media can be biased and often is, but that is not the same as being fake. Fox news has been known to be highly critical of Trump while MSNBC has been know to be critical of Obama and Clinton. A moderately intelligent person can work out the difference between lies and bias.

I dont have a major problem with the MSM other than their propensity for bias. Fox news does sometimes get pretty close to it with Hannity etc and you need to be careful in interpreting what they say.
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #91 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:50am
 
well questions remain unanswered ,

we continue regardless and dismiss those whom refuse to answer simple questions ..

now see here lets observe weekenders source of news which is totally fake and exposed



Top 10 Fake News Stories of 2016
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Reply #92 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:51am
 


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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #93 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 9:11am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:50am:
well questions remain unanswered ,

we continue regardless and dismiss those whom refuse to answer simple questions ..


What are you talking about now?

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now see here lets observe weekenders source of news which is totally fake and exposed



Top 10 Fake News Stories of 2016


As "reported" by someone peddling multiple "ILLUMINATI" books he's written on Amazon, Liberal Tears mugs and most of all, provided not a single source to his claims that the stories were fake.

He's also including stories about Trump not winning the election as "fake news" even though they were based on polling numbers from literally every reputable pollsters, even some that Fox New used. 

Being wrong doesn't equal "fake". 

Didn't we just clear up the whole thing about credible sources?  How can you post a nobody youtuber who just comments on the work of others, yet won't even source his copy/paste job so the claims can be fact checked?

That is not credible, not even close.

If you think it is the only possible justification could be confirmation bias.  This dickhead said things you like, therefore they're true.

That's not how it works.

You're trying to discredit weekender by claiming his source of news has been exposed as fake, by using a youtube top 10 list from a card carrying illuminati conspiracy far right conservative who backs up ZERO of his claims in the video.

Fail, a fail in every conceivable way there is to fail...

But on that note, where do you get your news from?  Talk about unanswered questions...
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #94 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 9:19am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 9:11am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 2:50am:
well questions remain unanswered ,

we continue regardless and dismiss those whom refuse to answer simple questions ..


What are you talking about now?

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now see here lets observe weekenders source of news which is totally fake and exposed



Top 10 Fake News Stories of 2016


As "reported" by someone peddling multiple "ILLUMINATI" books he's written on Amazon, Liberal Tears mugs and most of all, provided not a single source to his claims that the stories were fake.

He's also including stories about Trump not winning the election as "fake news" even though they were based on polling numbers from literally every reputable pollsters, even some that Fox New used. 

Being wrong doesn't equal "fake". 

Didn't we just clear up the whole thing about credible sources?  How can you post a nobody youtuber who just comments on the work of others, yet won't even source his copy/paste job so the claims can be fact checked?

That is not credible, not even close.

If you think it is the only possible justification could be confirmation bias.  This dickhead said things you like, therefore they're true.

That's not how it works.

You're trying to discredit weekender by claiming his source of news has been exposed as fake, by using a youtube top 10 list from a card carrying illuminati conspiracy far right conservative who backs up ZERO of his claims in the video.

Fail, a fail in every conceivable way there is to fail...

But on that note, where do you get your news from?  Talk about unanswered questions...


Fattie is just a nutter. Facts are pretty movable items as far as he is concerned.  too many drugs, too many pizzas.
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #95 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:17am
 
we are fighting fake news

where others cannot let go of the disinformational tit

excreting as much .. fortunately this has no effect unto truth and fact

namaste





Trump: We are fighting fake news




TRUMP DESTROYS CNN: Trump Destroyed CNN-- VERY FAKE NEWS
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #96 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:20am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:17am:
we are fighting fake news

where others cannot let go of the disinformational tit

excreting as much .. fortunately this has no effect unto truth and fact

namaste





Trump: We are fighting fake news


Right, so Trump is your news source then?  Is that we are to take away from your post?

You talk about truth and fact yet you quote Trump?

Please...
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #97 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:23am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:20am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:17am:
we are fighting fake news

where others cannot let go of the disinformational tit

excreting as much .. fortunately this has no effect unto truth and fact

namaste





Trump: We are fighting fake news


Right, so Trump is your news source then?  Is that we are to take away from your post?


this is classic programming and a false sense of reality displayed from the sad one ..

it is a report that trump is speaking upon and to and you cannot see that

you think this is my news ..

this is the POTUS and you have nothing but sour grapes and an altered and unfactual interpretation of reality

this does not effect unto truth and fact

so be at peace

namaste


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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #98 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:27am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 11:07am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2017 at 10:43am:
1. what do you call a credible news source weekender ?


Claiming any news source is credible is like blind support of a political party or politician no matter what they say or do, it's idiocy.  You know, like your love and devotion to Trump.

I can't speak for anyone else, but to me, a credible news source is one where you can verify their information.  It only works on a case by case basis.  For example, sometimes, rarely, this includes Fox News and sites like Infowars.  They include their sources and you can verify the facts they've presented.  The conclusions they've reached based on those facts are often a bridge too far and unjustified, but that is because they present opinion as facts all too often.

The same can be said for other news outlets, but to a lesser degree.

If news is posted that is factual and one can verify that or at the least they've provided the sources to what they've presented I would consider that credible.

But as for a blanket "I believe this source is credible no matter what", that's impossible.

One thing I can say, since I've been here and taken the time to read and watch much of what you've posted (and reposted, and reposted and reposted), it doesn't come anywhere near that category. 

I can entertain the opinions of people that you source as fact if it at least passes the logic test for what information on the subject we do know (rarely provided by you) but more often than not your links and videos don't cite their sources, misconstrue something factual but use just enough language in common to make it sound legitimate to those not bothered to fact check, then make a huge leap in logic to a predetermined conclusion and position they have a vested interest in pushing that can't even be justified by the facts they manufactured.

It's as if they work backwards.  "I want to show this, what can I find as a source to twist to fit my narrative" rather than, "Here are the facts, what does it mean".

But like claiming any one outlet is credible ultimately works in the other direction.  I'm sure there are time you have posted something credible, surely...

But you can play the game all you like, even format your posts to match as closely as possible the website or mailing list you stole them from, but no amount of window dressing can make up for the vapid, fact devoid, often conspiracy opinion that has one thing in common in nearly all that you post.

That is that it supports Trump or attacks his opponents 99% of the time.

On top of that, you appear to only bother "fact checking" (if you can call it that) information you don't like so you can dismiss it without even acknowledging the substance.

Credible sources are important, but you've got a lot of work to do before you even bother worrying about what is credible or not if you want to be taken seriously.

A broken clock is more factual than the majority of your posts and it's only right 0.005% of the time.


putting aside this longwinded blowbag of inane conjecture and smoke with mirrors

as to look to the stars and heavens

if you cannot see this is fake news then you just keep your head up uranus



Proof TV Media 100% Fake - Fake/Green Screen Compliation (2014)


deliberate and true fake news ..

making up stories with blue screen and projecting this into every home on the planet

this is deliberate holly wood programming

and weekender and sad kangaroo cannot see that

they actually believe the lies !

and when someone points this out they attack like little children with abuse and ridicule at the one pointing out the lie ..

that dear reader , is truly sad and yet a great insight into the mentally deranged armchair pundit/punter throwing two ignorant cents with little sense into the ring

and so be it
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Reply #99 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:44am
 
sad kangaroo and weakender have teamed up and sit around watching fake news all day like this ..

then they swallow the lies and attack true posts with facts because they conflict with their absorbed lies ..



Fake News Compilation (BBC, CNN, FOX, NBC, NYT)


yet if you call them on it they will type out a long windbag of inane conjecture,post random fat pictures of people or just abuse and ridicule the messenger of truth

ho hum so sad but true ..
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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #100 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:04am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:23am:
this is classic programming and a false sense of reality displayed from the sad one ..


You've spent how many pages demanding to know where others source their news, or what sources they deem credible, you've been given answers to those questions then when the tables are turned and you're asked the same thing, you evade the question then claim anyone who wants to know the answer is using smoke and mirrors or is stuck in a false sense of reality?

You can't be serious?

That was you 2 pages ago?  Pathetic bloody hypocrite...

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it is a report that trump is speaking upon and to and you cannot see that

you think this is my news ..

this is the POTUS and you have nothing but sour grapes and an altered and unfactual interpretation of reality


I didn't say it was your news, I asked if it was your source, you posted a video of the President after you were asked what your source was.

And I watched the video, Trump mentions no report, not once.  All he does is manufacture claims without citing anything or sourcing anything, and ironically in doing so he was demanding that the media release the names of their sources.

What right does he have to demand truth from anyone, demand to know sources from anyone, when he and his administration shamelessly manufacture their own version of events that can be PROVEN are false.  PROVEN FALSE.  That means they're LYING and completely untrustworthy.

If you take anything they say, especially when they offer no sources as gospel truth, you're an idiot.

This is why I asked what your news source was, again, a question only a single page ago you seemed a valid one to ask of others.

But instead you've ignored that and posted a video of a proven liar to justify your stance on "fake news"? 

You're outraged at reporting that you deem not to be factual because it presents information you don't like, yet you use lies and bullshit to prosecute your case against lies and bullshit.

Come on...

Shall I post the video compilation of Trump's lies?  You know, with the sources, the transcripts and other proof to back it up?

You seem to like videos?  I can even tone down the production quality and make it look like it was from the 80's if you think that will give it that authentic vintage touch like the crap you post.

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this does not effect unto truth and fact


You don't get to decide what is truthful or factual based purely on a whim and a narrative you support.  It's either truthful and factual, or it isn't.

Thus far you've posted a lot, and I mean a lot, of things, but it's just conjecture, innuendo, conspiracy hyperbole or flat out bullshit.

I challenge you to prove just one of your claims.  Just one.

And before you start ejaculating onto the keyboard, a provable claim does not constitute an example of something mildly related from 30 years ago then pretending that proves something totally different today.

The problem is, you seem to subscribe to the Illuminati conspiracies, which even if true are totally unproven.  In your world, the lack of being able to prove them is probably in itself proof of their existence I'm sure, but unfortunately unprovable self fulfilling prophecies do not constitute evidence.

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so be at peace

namaste


Join me in reality and prove your claims, or go flap yourself.

Namaste.
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Reply #101 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 10:44am:
yet if you call them on it they will type out a long windbag of inane conjecture,post random fat pictures of people or just abuse and ridicule the messenger of truth


What is a reliable news source then?  Help us be as enlightened as you.

And by the way, you being called out for your lies doesn't make you the victim.  I won't pretend that others haven't taken a lower road, but they've been subjected to your lies and refusal to answer questions you've asked of others longer than I have.

But I've not teamed up with anyone, you asked a question and I answered it from my point of view, which started us down this path.  If anything you're only a victim of your own lies, but that's self inflicted so I have no sympathy for that.
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Reply #102 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 11:59am
 
Let's not get too far off topic.  This all started because Michael Flynn has offered to testify before congressional committees about the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia but wants "assurance against unfair prosecution".  This came from Flynn's own Lawyers and yes, it was reported on by MSNBC as it was by everyone else.

Rather than bothering to check the facts of their report, you've dismissed it because you considering them a "fake news source" despite the validity of the reporting in this case.

Then you took us down the rabbit hole of fake news with you distracting from the original post, not once bothering to deal with it.

And now we find ourselves arguing over news sources and you using every trick in the book to distract away from the topic of the thread.

Well, it won't work any longer.

So what we can do is remove news sources all together, that way there is no fake news involved, and you can read the statement from Flynn's lawyers here,

Flynn’s attorney, Robert Kelner's letter to the Press

So Flynn, after goading the audience of a Trump rally last year to cheer "Lock her up",


(unedited video hosted not by the "fake news media" but Right Side Broadcasting Network)

He is now effectively saying "don't lock me up" in return for telling the truth about the Trump campaign's links with Russia.  He wants an immunity deal, but insists he's done no wrong. 

The problem is, by his own attacks on Clinton, he is probably guilty of a crime himself as in 2016, Flynn told Chuck Todd “When you are given immunity, that means that you have probably committed a crime.”,



So rather than wasting everyone's time trying to prove the media fake, why don't you address the topic of the thread, presented to you again not through the fake media, but directly from the sources with links to the material for you to verify. 

If you still want to go on about fake news or the main stream media, I suggest you do it elsewhere because it's off topic in this thread.
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Reply #103 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:54am:
http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/lock-who-up-911505475830

Gotta love the irony.  After all the stupid 'lock her up' screams during the campaign, now it is LOCK THEM UP - including TRump.

and unlike Hillary, the chances of them going to jail is growing daily.


oh yes we do love the irony of msnbc and their fake news agenda

as we dismiss opportunistic inanity and conjecture from very sad and angry individuals ..

heres another example of fake news from msnbc ..



MSNBC Fake News compilation pt 2 RACE BAITING EDITION


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Re: Lock 'who' up?
Reply #104 - Apr 11th, 2017 at 12:16pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 1st, 2017 at 11:54am:
http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/lock-who-up-911505475830

Gotta love the irony.  After all the stupid 'lock her up' screams during the campaign, now it is LOCK THEM UP - including TRump.

and unlike Hillary, the chances of them going to jail is growing daily.


oh yes we do love the irony of msnbc and their fake news agenda

as we dismiss opportunistic inanity and conjecture from very sad and angry individuals ..

heres another example of fake news from msnbc ..


And what does that have to do with Mike Flynn?
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