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Reply #45 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:08pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 12:34pm:

Spectroscopy proves you wrong.

No it actually proves you wrong.

Is CO2 a well mixed gas...?

https://airs.jpl.nasa.gov/news

Mans emissions are solely responsible for the current increase in CO2.

Actually it agrees with the OP of this thread that most CO2 comes from natural sources.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/atmospheric-infrared-sounder-airs/

Now about temperature nowhere does it say the current warming is due to the increase in CO2...... Kiss

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Reply #46 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:09pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 12:38pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 10:08am:

The warming is natural and has nothing to do with mans emissions of CO2 which are so small they don't even register on the overall carbon budget of the atmopshere.

You do understand the carbon cycle don't you?
I suggest you actually do some research instead of cut and pasting JoNova
Then you might understand why the ADDITIONAL CO2 emissions by man are so important to the carbon budget of the atmosphere

I suggest you listen to your own advise and stop listening to dooms dayers......... Kiss

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Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby
Reply #47 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:37pm:

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Anthropogenic emissions occur on top of the natural carbon cycle that circulates carbon between the atmosphere, ocean and terrestrial biosphere.

That is the key line Ajax
And that additional CO2 that gets emitted keeps on accumulating each year

If you had bothered to listen to the OP of this thread you would realise that what you are saying is total RUBBISH...!!

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Reply #48 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:15pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:05pm:

See the post where I quoted from the Met Office or did you quickly skip over that? Here is some more from that link:

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Carbon Budget for 2015

For the year 2015, fossil fuel emissions were 9.9 ±0.5 Gigatonnes of carbon (GtC), a small increase over 2014 (a gigatonne is 1 billion tones; 1GtC (Carbon) is equivalent to 3.664GtCO2 (Carbon Dioxide)). An additional emission of 1.3 ±0.5 GtC is estimated from land-use change. Atmospheric CO2 increased by 6.3±0.2 GtC (or 2.97 ppm), a 50% increase compared to 2014 (4.2 ±0.1 GtC), due to a halving of the land sink to 1.9 ±0.9 GtC (2014: 3.9 ±0.9 GtC) resulting from the start of prevailing El Nino conditions. The rest was absorbed by the oceans - 3 ±0.5GtC (2014: 2.9 ±0.5GtC).

Cumulative emissions from pre-industrial (1750-2015) have reached 600 ±70 GtC, (555 ±55 GtC 1870-2015). This is an update to the IPCC 1750-2011 estimate of 555 [470 - 640] GtC to include 2012-2015 emissions and a revision of early 20th century land use emissions. The IPCC estimates that with cumulative emissions of 790 GtC, there is a two-thirds chance of staying below 2°C warming relative to pre-industrial temperatures. Keeping warming below two degrees requires total CO2 emissions to remain below this target. The budget is further reduced for 1.5°C. At current levels we are over half way towards this figure. If other non-CO2 gases are excluded, the emissions budget is substantially increased to approximately 1000 GtC.

Payed monkeys parading as scientists.

Champions of the IPCC.............. Tongue

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby Reply #49 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:21pm Meteorologists and climatologists. They observe and measure the weather. Whatever they publish has to be peer reviewed first.
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Reply #50 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:24pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Climatologists.

NO.....!

Payed monkeys that wouldn't know the first thing about science, otherwise they wouldn't print such rubbish handed to them by the IPCC.

They cant even get the weather right you expect me to believe their 100 year forecasts.....LOL....... Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21400 Gender:	Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby Reply #51 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:24pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:21pm: Climatologists. ClimaStrologists.
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Reply #52 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:26pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Climatologists.

NO.....!

Payed monkeys that wouldn't know the first thing about science, otherwise they wouldn't print such rubbish handed to them by the IPCC.

They cant even get the weather right you expect me to believe their 100 year forecasts.....LOL....... Grin

oh well, stick to your denialist crap then.

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Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby
Reply #53 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:05pm:

For the year 2015, fossil fuel emissions were 9.9 ±0.5 Gigatonnes of carbon (GtC), a small increase over 2014 (a gigatonne is 1 billion tones; 1GtC (Carbon) is equivalent to 3.664GtCO2 (Carbon Dioxide)). An additional emission of 1.3 ±0.5 GtC is estimated from land-use change. Atmospheric CO2 increased by 6.3±0.2 GtC (or 2.97 ppm), a 50% increase compared to 2014 (4.2 ±0.1 GtC), due to a halving of the land sink to 1.9 ±0.9 GtC (2014: 3.9 ±0.9 GtC) resulting from the start of prevailing El Nino conditions. The rest was absorbed by the oceans - 3 ±0.5GtC (2014: 2.9 ±0.5GtC).

You notice they didn't give any increase for the greening of the planet?

Why don't they want to admit that?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21400 Gender:	Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby Reply #54 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:33pm JM, You do understand the WMO says 30 years of weather equates to climate? So when they can predict weather, accurately, out past about seven days, then they may be able to predict climate.
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Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby
Reply #55 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:26pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Climatologists.

NO.....!

Payed monkeys that wouldn't know the first thing about science, otherwise they wouldn't print such rubbish handed to them by the IPCC.

They cant even get the weather right you expect me to believe their 100 year forecasts.....LOL....... Grin

oh well, stick to your denialist crap then.

The crap is what comes out of the monkeys on the gravy train.

Like for example the 97% consensus - where did that come from again.....??

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/07/17/that-scientific-global-warming...

Then lets not forget John Cook et al who tried to verify this with his fraudulent paper that got laughed out of the science community, he's back working in the cartoon industry again over at skeptical science blog........ Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby Reply #57 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:00pm And all that crap has what to do with the BuMet and MetOffice? Just stupid denialist crap, irrelevant and not science. Brace yourself Ajax: there will be another ETS of some kind even if the Libs are in power.
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Reply #58 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:12pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:00pm:

And all that crap has what to do with the BuMet and MetOffice?

Just stupid denialist crap, irrelevant and not science.

Brace yourself Ajax: there will be another ETS of some kind even if the Libs are in power.

Yes I know, the oligarchy always gets it way sad but true.

They will create a $7 trillion dollar carbon derivatives market per annum to play their games on.

The last thing on their minds after they create this market will be to reduce the amount of CO2 going into the atmosphere.

All they want is for us to pay for it going into the atmosphere.

And that's how critical your pseudo science called AGW is my friend.

The cost of having virtually no impact on the atmospheric CO2 budget for the whole world will be about $360 TRILLION dollars.

Now you know why bankers the elite the oligarchy have been pumping billions of dollars into this industry.

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Re: The destruction of the AGW science by Murray Salby
Reply #59 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:17pm

GLOBAL FREEZING; 15-year ICE-AGE to hit by 2021

Published on Apr 1, 2017

GLOBAL FREEZING: seawapa.org/climate
15-year ICE-AGE to hit by 2021 (seawapa.org/timeline) as the sun prepares to 'HIBERNATE' (seawapa.org/solar). This is not fear-mongering, it's the presentation of the only plan (seawapa.org/plan), big enough as the alternative to all depopulation programs by wars (seawapa.org/index/wars.html), economic crisis, starvation, fears, geoengineering (seawapa.org/geo), pestilence, co2 demonization (seawapa.org/co2), expensive "space" & "science" programs, ... combined.

Without it, there will be food price hike leading to famine, economic collapses, financial collapses, bankruptcies, mass migration, leading to wars and many will perish.

What is your plan if it will really happen?
Do you think the government will save everyone? In fact, they all know about this, and they will cull the useless consumers to keep only necessary people in the field of elements exploration, to use in robotics, infrastructures, mass food and good productions, and in finance, science, system administration, ...

Politicians are preparing, while you are distracted
That's why there are so many distractions in the news; from the US-Chinese-Russian tensions, Brexit, refugee crisis, Ukraine conflict (Russian food basket), Middle-East, the Police State needs to control the masses via terrorist False-Flags, to the South China Sea dispute, ... to steer everybody heads away from Mini Ice-Age (seawapa.org/mia) and Ice-Age (seawapa.org/ia) events; seawapa.org/2017, seawapa.org/2016

And if you do just set all of these distractions aside and look back this way where they don't want you to look, there is a major tsunami of societal changes coming.

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