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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #75 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 9:01pm u r telling the 'story'. Booby said it was unusual. So, you disagree then.?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21384 Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #76 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 11:16pm Emma wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 9:01pm: u r telling the 'story'. Booby said it was unusual. So, you disagree then.? Yes. But as i said the periodicity is not metronomic. They vary in length. Perhaps you can define usual.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #77 - Apr 13^th, 2017 at 11:42pm not my problem darlink. As I said you're the one telling the story.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21384 Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #78 - Apr 14^th, 2017 at 12:16pm Emma wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 11:42pm: not my problem darlink. As I said you're the one telling the story. I'm just giving you what passes for data; without all the uncertainties of course. The story is what you make of the data.
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Reply #79 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 1:56pm

"Who could possibly have been measuring Global Mean Temperature (GMT) so accurately (±0.14°C) in 1880?"

"As one would expect, reliable data sets from the late 19th are sparse.

"How then to calculate GMT from such sparse data, which happens to be concentrated in North America and Europe? Well the solution is not to calculate GMT from contemporary 1880 data but to reconstruct GMT by identifying correlations among modern geographic temperature data distributions and then projecting these same correlations backward onto the support of the relatively sparse empirical data available in earlier times."

"Thus, "climate change" alarmism is based on two mathematical models: 1) a statistical model that "reconstructs" historical data using modern correlations projected backward for 100 years onto the thin support of sparse empirical data sets available then; and 2) a "climate model" that uses this very same reconstructed historical data as key input data to project climate forward for the next 100 years."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/09/one_more_reason_to_distrust_gl.html#ixzz4...

So that "data" from 1880 isn't data but a fabrication.

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Reply #80 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 2:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 10:47am:

We have a couple not very bright members saying we are in a Little Ice Age because, uh, sunspots. This is despite the sun being quiescent and the globe still heating up.

We have plain old deniers like Lees and Greg.

We have those who read the science and can see AGW in action.

Doubtless other views.

So, I will set up a poll, as fair as I can make it, no meaningless choices etc.

Please vote and discuss why you voted as you did.

I'm not a denier: I'm completely open-minded when it comes to AGW (AGW disciples are closed-minded).

So far, though, there's not enough credible, reliable evidence to support the hypothesis.

If that changes in the future, I'm willing to look at the new data.

And, having a poll on AGW is hilarious.

Science isn't about winning popularity contests.

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Reply #81 - Apr 16^th, 2017 at 3:15pm

lee wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 11:14am:

Emma wrote on Apr 13^th, 2017 at 1:46am:

You said it yourself earlier Booby. This period of warming is unusual.
Normally 10,000 yrs , but here we are, according to you at 12,000 yrs.

So, the current warming trend has already exceeded normality (according to you).
By 2000 years.

Golly gosh, I wonder what is different this time. Hmm?
What could it be?
Cheesy

You do know it is not a metronomic 10,000 years; don't you. It varies out to 20,000 years. So it is not unprecedented.

"These warm periods, called interglacial periods, appear to last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate. At year 18,000 and counting our current interglacial vacation from the Ice Age is much nearer its end than its beginning."

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

The figures are not exact.

So is it different this time?

Hi lee,
Yes - so we are right at the end of the interglacial period.
The scary part is that a full ice age can hit in only 3 years.
Scientists in the Antarctic have evidence of that from ice drilling cores.

I posted the evidence once on the mini ice age thread.

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Reply #82 - Apr 17^th, 2017 at 10:45pm

You have never, ever posted “evidence” in the ridiculous LIA thread. Stupid, lying videos yes, evidence no.

If “scientists in the Antarctic” reckon a full blown Ice Age can be here in three years there would be papers you can find (or find the abstracts anyway.) So, there you go, Sir Booby the Louse, go find some papers/abstracts showing that Ice Ages can arise in 3 years.

Might also see what 40% more CO2 in the atmosphere than for several million years would do to an Ice Age.

Away you go.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21384 Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #83 - Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:37am Oh, No. it is that little "look at me" fellow again. The one who has never heard of the 60-70's global cooling scare.
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #84 - Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:41pm lee wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:37am: Oh, No. it is that little "look at me" fellow again. The one who has never heard of the 60-70's global cooling scare. You mean the fake news one
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #85 - Apr 19^th, 2017 at 12:38am lee wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:37am: Oh, No. it is that little "look at me" fellow again. The one who has never heard of the 60-70's global cooling scare. Have heard of it now else I could not have mentioned it. Really, Liar Lees, do apply some elementary logic to your babblings.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21384 Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #86 - Apr 19^th, 2017 at 11:24am TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:41pm: lee wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 10:37am: Oh, No. it is that little "look at me" fellow again. The one who has never heard of the 60-70's global cooling scare. You mean the fake news one Obviously you didn't follow the links. How surprising?
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Poll on AGW Reply #87 - Apr 20^th, 2017 at 1:11am YAWN. Oh how tiresome is this? ALMOST enough to send me to sleep. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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Poll
Question: Belief in AGW
* This poll has now closed *
We are in a Little Ice Age 1 (8.3%) AGW is not happening, climate is as in 1900 1 (8.3%) There is some but not much warming due AGW 1 (8.3%) AGW is happening as scientists say 6 (50.0%) AGW is worse than scientists say 2 (16.7%) Global warming is happening but not due AGW 1 (8.3%) Total votes: 12 « Created by: Jovial Monk on: Mar 31^st, 2017 at 10:54am »