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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #60 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
Dearie, dearie, me, Soren I don't know why you even bother, I really don't.  Ad hominem debate again?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #61 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.




Spoken like a true coward.



You'll have to explain that one, old boy.

How can being with neither the terrorists or the Islamophobes be cowardly?

I'm curious.




I didn't see bobby state anything remotely islamophobic. Unless fighting islamic terrorism is now islamophobic.

I see the use of the word "us" as the people who oppose islamic terrorism. Why should you see it any different.





Why should I see it any different?

I'm glad you asked.

I see it different because that's not how Booby defines it.

I'm replying to Booby, and he defines 'us' as "those who follow the Bush Doctrine".






No that is how YOU defined it.


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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #62 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:45am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.




Spoken like a true coward.



You'll have to explain that one, old boy.

How can being with neither the terrorists or the Islamophobes be cowardly?

I'm curious.




I didn't see bobby state anything remotely islamophobic. Unless fighting islamic terrorism is now islamophobic.

I see the use of the word "us" as the people who oppose islamic terrorism. Why should you see it any different.





Why should I see it any different?

I'm glad you asked.

I see it different because that's not how Booby defines it.

I'm replying to Booby, and he defines 'us' as "those who follow the Bush Doctrine".






No that is how YOU defined it.




Incorrect.

That's Booby's definition, straight from his own mouth keyboard.

Booby is the one who started the whole 'us' nonsense in the first place.

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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #63 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:29am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.




Spoken like a true coward.



You'll have to explain that one, old boy.

How can being with neither the terrorists or the Islamophobes be cowardly?

I'm curious.




I didn't see bobby state anything remotely islamophobic. Unless fighting islamic terrorism is now islamophobic.

I see the use of the word "us" as the people who oppose islamic terrorism. Why should you see it any different.





Why should I see it any different?

I'm glad you asked.

I see it different because that's not how Booby defines it.

I'm replying to Booby, and he defines 'us' as "those who follow the Bush Doctrine".






No that is how YOU defined it.




What do we have here then?    Undecided

Sir Bobby: "I am with George Bush's doctrine which has never been rescinded by the United States."

Sir Booby: "The Bush doctrine only allows 2 choices."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1490280659/454#454
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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #64 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:54am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:29am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.




Spoken like a true coward.



You'll have to explain that one, old boy.

How can being with neither the terrorists or the Islamophobes be cowardly?

I'm curious.




I didn't see bobby state anything remotely islamophobic. Unless fighting islamic terrorism is now islamophobic.

I see the use of the word "us" as the people who oppose islamic terrorism. Why should you see it any different.





Why should I see it any different?

I'm glad you asked.

I see it different because that's not how Booby defines it.

I'm replying to Booby, and he defines 'us' as "those who follow the Bush Doctrine".






No that is how YOU defined it.




What do we have here then?    Undecided

Sir Bobby: "I am with George Bush's doctrine which has never been rescinded by the United States."

Sir Booby: "The Bush doctrine only allows 2 choices."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1490280659/454#454



Did you cut that from his post to formulate another lie, because I don't see it there now.

You are prone to lying like a 2 yr old stealing lollies, so Ill just go with what he wrote here and not elsewhere, because GWB hasn't been president for nearly a fkken decade & the killing of terrorists should be everyone's doctrine. (and it is)


Unless you can show me where the GWB doctrine explicitly states islamophobia as a cornerstone of that doctrine, I will just have to accept that this is just another load of horse sh1t by you.



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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #65 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:14am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:54am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:29am:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:23am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.




Spoken like a true coward.



You'll have to explain that one, old boy.

How can being with neither the terrorists or the Islamophobes be cowardly?

I'm curious.




I didn't see bobby state anything remotely islamophobic. Unless fighting islamic terrorism is now islamophobic.

I see the use of the word "us" as the people who oppose islamic terrorism. Why should you see it any different.





Why should I see it any different?

I'm glad you asked.

I see it different because that's not how Booby defines it.

I'm replying to Booby, and he defines 'us' as "those who follow the Bush Doctrine".






No that is how YOU defined it.




What do we have here then?    Undecided

Sir Bobby: "I am with George Bush's doctrine which has never been rescinded by the United States."

Sir Booby: "The Bush doctrine only allows 2 choices."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1490280659/454#454



Did you cut that from his post to formulate another lie, because I don't see it there now.

You are prone to lying like a 2 yr old stealing lollies, so Ill just go with what he wrote here and not elsewhere, because GWB hasn't been president for nearly a fkken decade & the killing of terrorists should be everyone's doctrine. (and it is)


Unless you can show me where the GWB doctrine explicitly states islamophobia as a cornerstone of that doctrine, I will just have to accept that this is just another load of horse sh1t by you.





I copied it from his post to show you that you were, once again, wrong.

Sir Booby is the one who defined 'us' as those who support the Bush Doctrine.

It's right there, in plain English.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1490280659/449#449

"The Bush doctrine only allows 2 choices."

Aussie: "And who gives a flying ferk what that idiot Bush said?"

Booby: "So there you have it - Aussie is not with us!"

Aussie: "Tell us, Bobby.  What exactly are you 'with?'"

Booby: "I am with George Bush's doctrine which has never been rescinded by the United States."

Grin


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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #66 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:20pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Dearie, dearie, me, Soren I don't know why you even bother, I really don't.  Ad hominem debate again?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



No ad hominem.

You are objectively stupid and/or devious.  You asserted, once again for the Nth time, another idiotic/devious thing:

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Where were you condemning these acts of violence committed by (at least nominally) Christian people? 


You are trying to wash together 'at least nominally' (Christians)  with a staunch fundamentalists who declare their precise religious motivation (allahu akhbaring Muslims).


Calling you a lying dishonest fool is not ad hominem because you ARE lying in your arguments, you do so knowingly (dishonesty) and you big note yourself as if your imaginary qualifications (Masters, Doctorate) could shield you from everyone seeing just how mentally negligible and deluded you are (fool).


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Reply #67 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Dearie, dearie, me, Soren I don't know why you even bother, I really don't.  Ad hominem debate again?  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No ad hominem.

You are objectively stupid and/or devious.  You asserted, once again for the Nth time, another idiotic/devious thing:

Quote:
Where were you condemning these acts of violence committed by (at least nominally) Christian people? 


You are trying to wash together 'at least nominally' (Christians)  with a staunch fundamentalists who declare their precise religious motivation (allahu akhbaring Muslims).

Calling you a lying dishonest fool is not ad hominem because you ARE lying in your arguments, you do so knowingly (dishonesty) and you big note yourself as if your imaginary qualifications (Masters, Doctorate) could shield you from everyone seeing just how mentally negligible and deluded you are (fool).


Oh, dear, so qualifying my statement is wrong, it is "lying" in your view, Soren?  Really?  Tsk, tsk, I wonder if your parents ever spanked you or were they part of the Modern Scandinavian methodology of child rearing where they allowed you to run riot?  If they were, it failed, dismally.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Don't blame ISLAM, for London Jihadi attack.....
Reply #68 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Tsk, tsk, I wonder if your parents ever spanked you or were they part of the Modern Scandinavian methodology of child rearing where they allowed you to run riot?  If they were, it failed, dismally.  Tsk, tsk


Why is this dero allowed here?

All he does is treat people like children, add things that were never claimed and pour out his hated "ad hom" to others in profusion.
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Reply #69 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
yep that's bwian... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #70 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:33pm:
issuevoter wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:28pm:
ISIS claims all successes, wherever they are perpetrated. It makes no difference anyway. Masood was saturated in the Mohamed fixation, like the rest of them.


Was he?  Which version was he "saturated" in?  Sunni, Shi'ate, Ba'hai, Wahabbi, Druze, etc.?

In reality, the man was troubled, he was violent and he decided he'd take his problems out on society and all in the name of his religion.   Rather like a few Saints did for Catholicism...    Roll Eyes

Wahabbi.
Masood’s route to extremism could also have been influenced by two stints working as an English teacher in Saudi Arabia, whose government enforces a fundamentalist form of Islam linked to extremist movements around the world.

He converted. He was a Muslim. He did exactly what ISIS has been urging Muslims to do.

If Islam has nothing to do with this then Islam has nothing to do with any Islamic charity, either. You cannot whitewash Islam's ideology supporting dark and evil currents and actions.


So, does Christianity have anything to do with this, Soren?

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    Craig Gee was attacked on December 3, 2007, by four men whilst holding his boyfriend's hand walking down Crown Street in Surry Hills, Sydney, Australia. Part of his skull was reduced to powder and his leg was broken during the attack.[1] This incident prompted a vigil against the rising level of homophobia in the city and alleged apathy from police,[2] and despite the attack, Gee and his boyfriend joined the Chief of Parade Margaret Cho to lead the 2008 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade.[3]
    Several of the victims of the Snowtown murders were openly gay men, while others were labeled by the killers as being gay and/or child abusers. Prosecutor Wendy Abraham suggested the accused men’s attitude to paedophiles and homosexuals was a motive.[4]
    Roffee and Waling (2016) conducted a study that aimed to investigate incidents of bullying, harassment and violence committed towards LGBTIQ people. They discovered an issue, however, when they found that many people did not view what they had been subjected to as a hate crime, or even a crime at all. Furthermore, many of the participants commented on feeling that they did not meet the criteria of being a victim harassment, bullying or violence. This established that prospective participants may not have felt that they met the criteria and thus would not have elected to take part in the study. The conclusion of the study established that all of the participants had been subjected to some form of victimisation, with some of the attacks being extremely violent and criminal.[5][6]

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Using your logic, all religions are responsible for what their believers commit in their names, now aren't they?

Where were you condemning these acts of violence committed by (at least nominally) Christian people?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

Bwian's an idiot pure and simple...
If these people were truly Christians they would not be doing the big Sin bwian... which is killing people...

Do you know they have any religious affiliation?
Did they shout "allahu ackbar"?

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Reply #71 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:23pm
 
BTW bwian are all non-Islamic or Caucasians considered by you to be nominally Christian or Christian when in fact they could as easily be agnostic or atheists? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #72 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 9:41pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:23pm:
BTW bwian are all non-Islamic or Caucasians considered by you to be nominally Christian or Christian when in fact they could as easily be agnostic or atheists? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


They could be.  It's why I qualified my original statement, Geoff, to make allowances for those who are non-believers.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #73 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 9:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Oh, dear, so qualifying my statement is wrong, it is "lying" in your view, Soren?  Really?  Tsk, tsk, I wonder if your parents ever spanked you or were they part of the Modern Scandinavian methodology of child rearing where they allowed you to run riot?  If they were, it failed, dismally.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes



You are lying now, Brian.  We all know it, including you. You pretend it's a question but we all know that you are, in fact, lying.  You just do not have an honest bone in your body, Brian.


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Reply #74 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Oh, dear, so qualifying my statement is wrong, it is "lying" in your view, Soren?  Really?  Tsk, tsk, I wonder if your parents ever spanked you or were they part of the Modern Scandinavian methodology of child rearing where they allowed you to run riot?  If they were, it failed, dismally.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes



You are lying now, Brian.  We all know it, including you. You pretend it's a question but we all know that you are, in fact, lying.  You just do not have an honest bone in your body, Brian.


Really?  You have evidence that I have knowingly told an untruth, Soren?  Care to provide it or is just another example of your childish ad hominem insults?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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