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Reply #30 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Since your reticence makes you look like a spineless apologist, I'll post it for you...

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
So you agree gweggy that Muslim Terrorists are right wing nutjobs, who use hatred and violence.


Absolutely.
I agree 100%.
When have I ever said anything to the contrary?


Just that one... Roll Eyes
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Reply #31 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:20pm
 
Grendel wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Since your reticence makes you look like a spineless apologist, I'll post it for you...

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
Grendel wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
So you agree gweggy that Muslim Terrorists are right wing nutjobs, who use hatred and violence.


Absolutely.
I agree 100%.
When have I ever said anything to the contrary?


Just that one... Roll Eyes


Who in this forum has said anything to the contrary, though?

Everybody here agrees that Muslim terrorists are right wing nutjobs, who use hatred and violence.

Do you also want to make a point of the sky being blue and water being wet?
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Reply #32 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm
 
Well, I DO hold Islam responsible for all Islamic terrorism.

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Reply #33 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:01pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Well, I DO hold Islam responsible for all Islamic terrorism.



Apologist.

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Reply #34 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
A recent survey showed 87.6% of Muslims have mental problems due to being brainwashed from birth. This is not a good outlook for the countries they now reside in.
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Reply #35 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm
 
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.
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Reply #36 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:04pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Well, I DO hold Islam responsible for all Islamic terrorism.



Apologist.




Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Svcking on your own little pizzle again, gweggy.

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Reply #37 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Greggy,

you're either with us or

you're with the terrorists.


I'm with neither.

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Reply #38 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:21pm
 
Saying All Muslims are Responsible for Islamic Extremism Ignores the Non-Ideological Reasons for That Violence


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To think that these crimes were actually committed in true devotion to the religions the murderers used as their excuse, and to blame the non-violent members of those faiths for not doing more to prevent such extremist violence, is to miss what these brutal acts were really about.


http://bigthink.com/risk-reason-and-reality/saying-all-muslims-are-responsible-f...
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Reply #39 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
jmjcare wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:21pm:
Saying All Muslims are Responsible for Islamic Extremism Ignores the Non-Ideological Reasons for That Violence


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To think that these crimes were actually committed in true devotion to the religions the murderers used as their excuse, and to blame the non-violent members of those faiths for not doing more to prevent such extremist violence, is to miss what these brutal acts were really about.


http://bigthink.com/risk-reason-and-reality/saying-all-muslims-are-responsible-f...


Post of the day!
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Reply #40 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 9:02am
 
A large percentage Europeans, and by extension Australians and Americans etc., have become somewhat introspective and self-critical. This re-examination of history and cultural direction is, on whole, a strength. You will never see this quality among Muzlims, because they define themselves as followers of an infallible doctrine.
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Reply #41 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 12:26pm
 
The doctrine of islam unequivocally urges muslims to commit the vilest of inhumanities against muslim apostates and hypocrites, plus all non muslims.

The doctrine of islam unambiguously says that allah hates all non muslims.

All muslim terrorists believe they are doing the work of allah, they are convinced they will receive a reward for their atrocities committed in the name of allah.

muslim terrorists cite the doctrine of islam as the sacred endorsement of their despicably cruel deeds.   

The qur'an is revered as being infallible, by every muslim on this earth.

Therefore by definition, every muslim is responsible for the unspeakably heinous crimes engendered by this infallible doctrine.

muslims and their apologists prefer the bloodshed to simply being honest about the nature and consequences of islam. (they simply can't admit they're wrong, so the death and destruction will continue for a while yet).
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Reply #42 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 12:32pm
 
moses wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 12:26pm:
The doctrine of islam unequivocally urges muslims to commit the vilest of inhumanities against muslim apostates and hypocrites, plus all non muslims.

The doctrine of islam unambiguously says that allah hates all non muslims.

All muslim terrorists believe they are doing the work of allah, they are convinced they will receive a reward for their atrocities committed in the name of allah.

muslim terrorists cite the doctrine of islam as the sacred endorsement of their despicably cruel deeds.   

The qur'an is revered as being infallible, by every muslim on this earth.

Therefore by definition, every muslim is responsible for the unspeakably heinous crimes engendered by this infallible doctrine.

muslims and their apologists prefer the bloodshed to simply being honest about the nature and consequences of islam. (they simply can't admit they're wrong, so the death and destruction will continue for a while yet).


I think that might be the worst bit of "reasoning" I've ever seen.

Seriously.

Just, wow.
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Reply #43 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 12:40pm
 
I BLAME GWEG!

its not hard to do.
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Reply #44 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:21pm
 
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'No evidence' Westminster attacker associated with Islamic State, police say

Police have found no evidence that the man who killed four people in London last week was associated with the Islamic State group or al-Qaida, a senior British counter terrorism officer said today.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu of the Metropolitan Police said Westminster attacker Khalid Masood clearly had "an interest in jihad," but police have no indication he discussed his attack plans with others.
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Basu, who also serves as Britain's senior national coordinator for counter terrorism policing, said Thursday's attack, in which Masood ran down pedestrians on London's Westminster Bridge before fatally stabbing a policeman guarding Parliament, "appears to be based on low-sophistication, low-tech, low-cost techniques copied from other attacks."

Masood was shot dead by police after his deadly rampage, which police have revealed lasted just 82 seconds.

Police believe Masood, a 52-year-old Briton with convictions for violence who had spent several years in Saudi Arabia, acted alone, but are trying to determine whether others helped inspire or direct his actions.

Detectives overnight continued to question a 30-year-old man arrested yesterday and a 58-year-old man arrested shortly after Thursday's attack.

Both were detained in the central England city of Birmingham, where Masood had recently lived.

Prime Minister Theresa May said last week that Masood was "a peripheral figure" in an investigation into violent extremism some years ago.

But Basu said he was not a "subject of interest" for counter terrorism police or the intelligence services before last week's attack.

Masood was born Adrian Elms, but changed his name in 2005, suggesting a conversion to Islam.

Basu said there was no sign Masood was radicalised during one of his stints in prison, the last of which was in 2003.

"I know when, where and how Masood committed his atrocities, but now I need to know why," Basu said.

"Most importantly, so do the victims and families."

As Basu appealed for anyone who spoke to Masood on the day of the attack to come forward, the British government repeated calls for tech companies to give police and intelligence services access to encrypted messages exchanged by terrorism suspects.

Masood used the messaging service WhatsApp just before he began his attack.

Home Secretary Amber Rudd said yesterday that such services must not "provide a secret place for terrorists to communicate with each other."

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