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Australia implicating itself in killing Yemenis
Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:19pm
 
Australian government and military industry are profiting from Saudi Arabia's murder of Yemeni civilians.

Australia is complicit in atrocities being committed in Yemen.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/90850668/Australia-selling-military-equip...

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Australia selling military equipment to Saudi Arabia during brutal Yemen conflict
Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne meets with Crown Prince Mutain bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud in Riyadh

Australian firms have secured contracts to supply military equipment to Saudi Arabia, an autocracy accused of ongoing war crimes in a conflict that has killed more than 10,000 civilians.

Defence has approved four military exports to the kingdom in the past year and the Australian government has led the push for more.

But the government is refusing to release details of the approved military sales, citing commercial-in-confidence rules.

Australia Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne visited Riyadh in December to promote Australian materiel to senior government figures including Prince Mutaib bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud, the head of the National Guard.

"The minister received a very positive reception, as did the business representatives who visited," a spokeswoman for Mr Pyne said.

The pitch to sell more to the world's biggest buyer of arms comes after the Dutch parliament voted last year to ban military exports to Saudi Arabia on humanitarian grounds.

Since March 2015, Saudi Arabia has led a coalition of Arab states on a bombing campaign in Yemen's north against Houthi rebels, which overthrew the government and have been labelled proxy fighters for Iran.

The United Nations recently confirmed at least 10,000 civilians had been killed in the conflict and warned some coalition attacks "may amount to war crimes".

A coalition blockade has pushed Yemen to the brink of famine.

"I despair for Yemen", said Sarah Phillips, a University of Sydney researcher.

Dr Phillips said both sides had used brutal tactics but Saudi Arabia's airstrike targeting had been "reckless at best", hitting funerals and hospitals at times.

Asked about Australian military exports to Saudi Arabia, Dr Phillips said: "I would find that deeply concerning, with the ways in which previous assistance from other Western nations has been used upon the civilian population."

The US provides logistical support and refuelling for the coalition but former president Barack Obama halted the sale of a precision-guided technology to the Saudis on humanitarian grounds. President Donald Trump reversed the decision this month.

Meanwhile, the legality of Britain's sales is being challenged in a High Court case and the Ministry of Defence is investigating 257 alleged breaches of international law by Saudi Arabia in Yemen.

Saudi Arabia briefly appeared on a UN "list of shame" as a violator of the rights of children in war but was then "temporarily" removed.

Greens Defence spokesman Scott Ludlam said an Australian minister soliciting military contracts from Saudi Arabia was "hideous".

"They are bombing hospitals, schools, agricultural areas, the port, bridges, power infrastructure, water infrastructure, attempting to starve an entire country into submission," Mr Ludlam said. "These are the sorts of crimes arms embargoes are for."

Australia has called for a ceasefire but neither Mr Pyne nor Foreign Minister Julie Bishop would comment on Saudi Arabia's use of force.

Pyne said military export applications were subject to "strict controls" and assessed against five criteria: international obligations, national security, human rights, regional security and foreign policy.

Pyne would not comment on the value of material exports to Saudi Arabia or say whether the market was growing. He declined to name which businesses accompanied him to Riyadh.

The shipbuilder Austal  said that it joined the trip and had held preliminary talks about providing Saudi Arabia with high-speed support vessels. Thales Australia would not comment on whether it attended or exports to the country.

Lowy Institute research fellow Rodger Shanahan said if Australia were to expand exports to Saudi Arabia, it should focus on defensive equipment rather than munitions that could be misused.

"As the British have found out, Saudi use of overseas munitions in a military operation you might not want your name attached to is always a potential problem," Dr Shanahan said.

Saudi Arabia first denied then admitted to using cluster bombs purchased from Britain in the 1980s.
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Re: Australia implicating itself in killing Yemenis
Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:51pm
 
What do we care? We have had no part in Yemenis killing themselves off.

Reminds me of the story about a fat person who blamed his spoon for when he ate too much ice cream.
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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:54pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
What do we care? We have had no part in Yemenis killing themselves off.

Reminds me of the story about a fat person who blamed his spoon for when he ate too much ice cream.


Australia has its sticky fingers in Saudi Arabians killing Yemeni civilians with munitions supplied by Australia under the orders of Uncle Sam.
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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:08pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:54pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
What do we care? We have had no part in Yemenis killing themselves off.

Reminds me of the story about a fat person who blamed his spoon for when he ate too much ice cream.


Australia has its sticky fingers in Saudi Arabians killing Yemeni civilians with munitions supplied by Australia under the orders of Uncle Sam.


So, you believe that guns have mind control powers that force people to kill others without consideration? Make sure you don't go around telling the gun lobbyists that belief. They will laugh you back to your hut where you don't have anything coloured unless you get overly excited and start charging at them like a Spanish bull.

Just like the man who hit his hand with a hammer, you want to blame the tool rather than the fool.
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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 5:08pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:54pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
What do we care? We have had no part in Yemenis killing themselves off.

Reminds me of the story about a fat person who blamed his spoon for when he ate too much ice cream.


Australia has its sticky fingers in Saudi Arabians killing Yemeni civilians with munitions supplied by Australia under the orders of Uncle Sam.


So, you believe that guns have mind control powers that force people to kill others without consideration? Make sure you don't go around telling the gun lobbyists that belief. They will laugh you back to your hut where you don't have anything coloured unless you get overly excited and start charging at them like a Spanish bull.

Just like the man who hit his hand with a hammer, you want to blame the tool rather than the fool.


When the Suppliers of guns and bullets know crimes are being committed by the people buying guns and bullets, the Suppliers are complicit and guilty despite their Uncle Sam telling them to do so.
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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:57pm
 
Supplying arms to a warzone does not make a non-combatant responsible for the conflict. Does supplying food to a warzone also make non-combatants responsible?
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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:20am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:57pm:
Supplying arms to a warzone does not make a non-combatant responsible for the conflict. Does supplying food to a warzone also make non-combatants responsible?


But... but... Russia shot down that airliner!
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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:59am
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:20am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:57pm:
Supplying arms to a warzone does not make a non-combatant responsible for the conflict. Does supplying food to a warzone also make non-combatants responsible?


But... but... Russia shot down that airliner!


Does Suppling sperm to a war zone ......
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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 1:37am
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:59am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 12:20am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:57pm:
Supplying arms to a warzone does not make a non-combatant responsible for the conflict. Does supplying food to a warzone also make non-combatants responsible?


But... but... Russia shot down that airliner!


Does Suppling sperm to a war zone ......

... make an icky situation sticky?
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Re: Australia implicating itself in killing Yemenis
Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 4:35am
 
Yemenis bin killing 'emselves for generations now.... it's part of our international aid budget to help them along...

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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:30am
 
From what I gather about Yemen, the fewer there are Yemeni, the fewer there are future war and terrorism.
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