I have always understood....
it isnt right to tar everyone with the same brush..
and even you might like to take on board
I do not lump all in the same basket....
for instance not all men are paedophiles or women bashers or murderers..and I wouldnt dream of suggesting they are..
do not forget you and greg
call everyone an INSLAMPHOBE and or racists.. because we dare to express a bad feeling about something....
and question everyone on their ethics..
yes not all terrorists fly the flag of ISLAM..,....
but the murderous ones we are dealing with in todays climate 2017..
is mainly of an ISLAMIC BACKGROUND>..
even down to the terrorist in this thread.. he converted to ISLAM....

now is there two versions of ISLAM?>...
maybe there is..
there are certainly many versions of Christianity..so why not Islam....
I cannot explain what fear people go through when they hear about another massacre.. its so sad....and yes I feel thesame way about all those innocent Muslims who also live in the hell of being a target for bigotry..
I dont get into the too and fro on here about whos right and whos wrong..
because its all more of the same thing and it solves nothing because no one is prepared to listen to the other side.. I get sick of it..I cant be bothered with it....
but it doesnt mean I DONT CARE...
so please dont judge me.. on what is said on this forum..
everyone is entitled to their point of view... if you dont like how some folks deal with it... talk about it.. dont patronise.... and yes I am afraid you do.. you see it as sticking up for a innocent group......but thats not what you are doing using word like islamphobics.. apologists...racists...ignorant and more...
we have heard it all.. all that does is put peoples backs up..
if you really believe anyone would like to see a 14 yr old blamed for what grown ups do. in the name of "whatever" then you are wrong very wrong....
I do not like reading what some folks say on here..I find some of it shocking.. but if I cant change their way of thinking... I do not get involved I tell them I am sad for them....
hopefully one day they may ask me why?>.
in the mean time some may take on board how this child feels shame and guilt at 14.......tragic.and bloody unfair.