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Reply #495 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:22pm

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:07pm:

I DIDNT CONTRADICT YOU....A

sheeeeeeeeeees do you think I want another 4 pages of insults...

you seriously cannot answer one question on here you have to go back and follow what that person has said..

or cop it..

and told your wasting bandwidth???

so you dont believe Islam has any EXTREMISTS in its midst...

as you never commented on my assumption it is the INTERPRETATION of the Koran..

and their desire not to live in peace...

Settle down Cods. No good comes from you getting all upset.

Firstly, i find it helpful to follow the conversation i'm interjecting myself into. It saves embarrassment lest i leap to the wrong conclusion.

Secondly, perhaps you can highlight for me why you would suggest there are no Muslim extremists? It seem an odd thing to say, is all. Ta.

Thirdly, as i have already pointed out to you, and Frank, who seems reluctant to factor it in, mere interpretation of the Qu'ran doesn't explain it. There are strong socio-political factors at play.

well you are good thats for sure..

everyone who deals with you knows you have complete control of the topic.. I am amazed you lower yourself to deal with the riff raff to be honest...

you read what you think people say.. then come in with your almost looking down your noise superior..[you believe] replies....

either c&p.. or dragging up old replies from people you hound into the ground for daring to have an opinion...

some on here are EXTREME in their thoughts....

you also come across as EXTREME... ask valkie/frank/gordon...ooops thats right you are not interested in what they think.... Roll Eyes

thats pretty obvious..

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Re: London Terror Attacks..
Reply #496 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:00pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

I've never really understood what Frank/Soren means by this. He's been using it as his primary argument for years.

Could people tell Anders Brievik from the 'good' right wing nationalists before he went on his rampage?

The obvious point to be made here is that virtually no criminal who was able to carry out their crime could have been identified apart from the rest of his/her community - otherwise they would have been stopped before it was too late - right?

Nationalism doesn't advocate the killing of non-nationalists and those who leave nationalism.
Nationalism doesn't advocate that the entire world should submit to it. It doesn't have a prophet who mustn't be made fun of on pain of death. Nationalism doesn't treat nationalist women as being worth half a nationalist man.

Islam does all these things. That is why my point is valid - Islam IS openly supremacist, violent, intolerant, it sees itself as destined to dominate everyone else, it promotes apartheid and segregation. These things are treated as eternal, unchangeable truths. If you accept Islam and Mohammed, these doctrines come with the package.

Islam does not do all of those things at all.

Extremists do those things.

You'll be less paranoid and hateful when you come to accept that simple truth.

Where do the 'extremists' get their ideas and motivation? Islam. Exclusively. Doggedly. Purely.

Fail. If it were that simple, all Muslims would be extremists.

The overwhelming majority are not.

OK, if ISLAMIC extremists are not getting their extremist ideas from Islam - where do they get them from?

You tell us.

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Re: London Terror Attacks..
Reply #497 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:00pm:

Islam does not do all of those things at all.

Extremists do those things.

Wrong.

Activists do those things. Muslims who do not take the literal Word of their God in vain.

The 80% majority of Muslims in the West don't want to forfeit the economic privileges of the Western First World life-style, and so they remain dormant until their circumstances changes for the worse.

Try to keep up with me, Mothra - if I'm going too fast just let me know ..

watch it herb..

the "Righteous Party" are in the same phone booth.. Grin

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Reply #498 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:25pm

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:07pm:

I DIDNT CONTRADICT YOU....A

sheeeeeeeeeees do you think I want another 4 pages of insults...

you seriously cannot answer one question on here you have to go back and follow what that person has said..

or cop it..

and told your wasting bandwidth???

so you dont believe Islam has any EXTREMISTS in its midst...

as you never commented on my assumption it is the INTERPRETATION of the Koran..

and their desire not to live in peace...

Settle down Cods. No good comes from you getting all upset.

Firstly, i find it helpful to follow the conversation i'm interjecting myself into. It saves embarrassment lest i leap to the wrong conclusion.

Secondly, perhaps you can highlight for me why you would suggest there are no Muslim extremists? It seem an odd thing to say, is all. Ta.

Thirdly, as i have already pointed out to you, and Frank, who seems reluctant to factor it in, mere interpretation of the Qu'ran doesn't explain it. There are strong socio-political factors at play.

well you are good thats for sure..

everyone who deals with you knows you have complete control of the topic.. I am amazed you lower yourself to deal with the riff raff to be honest...

you read what you think people say.. then come in with your almost looking down your noise superior..[you believe] replies....

either c&p.. or dragging up old replies from people you hound into the ground for daring to have an opinion...

some on here are EXTREME in their thoughts....

you also come across as EXTREME... ask valkie/frank/gordon...ooops thats right you are not interested in what they think.... Roll Eyes

thats pretty obvious..

That load of crap isn't even worthy of a reply.

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Re: London Terror Attacks..
Reply #499 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:26pm

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:00pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

I've never really understood what Frank/Soren means by this. He's been using it as his primary argument for years.

Could people tell Anders Brievik from the 'good' right wing nationalists before he went on his rampage?

The obvious point to be made here is that virtually no criminal who was able to carry out their crime could have been identified apart from the rest of his/her community - otherwise they would have been stopped before it was too late - right?

Nationalism doesn't advocate the killing of non-nationalists and those who leave nationalism.
Nationalism doesn't advocate that the entire world should submit to it. It doesn't have a prophet who mustn't be made fun of on pain of death. Nationalism doesn't treat nationalist women as being worth half a nationalist man.

Islam does all these things. That is why my point is valid - Islam IS openly supremacist, violent, intolerant, it sees itself as destined to dominate everyone else, it promotes apartheid and segregation. These things are treated as eternal, unchangeable truths. If you accept Islam and Mohammed, these doctrines come with the package.

Islam does not do all of those things at all.

Extremists do those things.

You'll be less paranoid and hateful when you come to accept that simple truth.

Where do the 'extremists' get their ideas and motivation? Islam. Exclusively. Doggedly. Purely.

Fail. If it were that simple, all Muslims would be extremists.

The overwhelming majority are not.

OK, if ISLAMIC extremists are not getting their extremist ideas from Islam - where do they get them from?

You tell us.

YOU FRANK

thought that was bloody obvious.....

you should know better.. Angry

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Reply #500 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:27pm

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:00pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

I've never really understood what Frank/Soren means by this. He's been using it as his primary argument for years.

Could people tell Anders Brievik from the 'good' right wing nationalists before he went on his rampage?

The obvious point to be made here is that virtually no criminal who was able to carry out their crime could have been identified apart from the rest of his/her community - otherwise they would have been stopped before it was too late - right?

Nationalism doesn't advocate the killing of non-nationalists and those who leave nationalism.
Nationalism doesn't advocate that the entire world should submit to it. It doesn't have a prophet who mustn't be made fun of on pain of death. Nationalism doesn't treat nationalist women as being worth half a nationalist man.

Islam does all these things. That is why my point is valid - Islam IS openly supremacist, violent, intolerant, it sees itself as destined to dominate everyone else, it promotes apartheid and segregation. These things are treated as eternal, unchangeable truths. If you accept Islam and Mohammed, these doctrines come with the package.

Islam does not do all of those things at all.

Extremists do those things.

You'll be less paranoid and hateful when you come to accept that simple truth.

Where do the 'extremists' get their ideas and motivation? Islam. Exclusively. Doggedly. Purely.

Fail. If it were that simple, all Muslims would be extremists.

The overwhelming majority are not.

OK, if ISLAMIC extremists are not getting their extremist ideas from Islam - where do they get them from?

You tell us.

You don't think generations of war and colonialism have played a part in the formation of their ideas?

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Reply #501 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:27pm

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:25pm:

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:07pm:

I DIDNT CONTRADICT YOU....A

sheeeeeeeeeees do you think I want another 4 pages of insults...

you seriously cannot answer one question on here you have to go back and follow what that person has said..

or cop it..

and told your wasting bandwidth???

so you dont believe Islam has any EXTREMISTS in its midst...

as you never commented on my assumption it is the INTERPRETATION of the Koran..

and their desire not to live in peace...

Settle down Cods. No good comes from you getting all upset.

Firstly, i find it helpful to follow the conversation i'm interjecting myself into. It saves embarrassment lest i leap to the wrong conclusion.

Secondly, perhaps you can highlight for me why you would suggest there are no Muslim extremists? It seem an odd thing to say, is all. Ta.

Thirdly, as i have already pointed out to you, and Frank, who seems reluctant to factor it in, mere interpretation of the Qu'ran doesn't explain it. There are strong socio-political factors at play.

well you are good thats for sure..

everyone who deals with you knows you have complete control of the topic.. I am amazed you lower yourself to deal with the riff raff to be honest...

you read what you think people say.. then come in with your almost looking down your noise superior..[you believe] replies....

either c&p.. or dragging up old replies from people you hound into the ground for daring to have an opinion...

some on here are EXTREME in their thoughts....

you also come across as EXTREME... ask valkie/frank/gordon...ooops thats right you are not interested in what they think.... Roll Eyes

thats pretty obvious..

That load of crap isn't even worthy of a reply.

thank god for that

there you go Frank... Roll Eyes

its called TOLERANCE .....mothra style.. Grin

I get a real laugh out of these people.. I really do..

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36794 Gender:	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #503 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:29pm You don't seem like you're laughing Cods. You seem like you're having an enormous tantrum.
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Reply #504 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:29pm

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:23pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:00pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

I've never really understood what Frank/Soren means by this. He's been using it as his primary argument for years.

Could people tell Anders Brievik from the 'good' right wing nationalists before he went on his rampage?

The obvious point to be made here is that virtually no criminal who was able to carry out their crime could have been identified apart from the rest of his/her community - otherwise they would have been stopped before it was too late - right?

Nationalism doesn't advocate the killing of non-nationalists and those who leave nationalism.
Nationalism doesn't advocate that the entire world should submit to it. It doesn't have a prophet who mustn't be made fun of on pain of death. Nationalism doesn't treat nationalist women as being worth half a nationalist man.

Islam does all these things. That is why my point is valid - Islam IS openly supremacist, violent, intolerant, it sees itself as destined to dominate everyone else, it promotes apartheid and segregation. These things are treated as eternal, unchangeable truths. If you accept Islam and Mohammed, these doctrines come with the package.

Islam does not do all of those things at all.

Extremists do those things.

You'll be less paranoid and hateful when you come to accept that simple truth.

Where do the 'extremists' get their ideas and motivation? Islam. Exclusively. Doggedly. Purely.

Fail. If it were that simple, all Muslims would be extremists.

The overwhelming majority are not.

OK, if ISLAMIC extremists are not getting their extremist ideas from Islam - where do they get them from?

You tell us.

Ah, here we go.

I love this particular excuse from the apologists.

"If it wasn't for the Koran, he would have been a law-abiding, fine upstanding citizen".

Grin

Oh, my aching sides.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #505 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:12pm mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:29pm: You don't seem like you're laughing Cods. You seem like you're having an enormous tantrum. Promise you those emoticons are me laughing... its not always easy to tell...
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Reply #506 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:47pm

Boris Johnson and David Cameron criticized for 'dad dancing' and partying while London mourns the dead and injured.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-david-cameron-go-10089683

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Boris Johnson denies 'dad dancing' with David Cameron hours after Londoners hold vigil for terror attack victims

The former London Mayor enjoyed a meal in a trendy New York restaurant with his old Etonian chum

Boris Johnson has denied 'dad dancing' with David Cameron in New York just hours after Londoners gathered in Trafalgar Square to remember victims of the Westminster terror attack.

The former London Mayor enjoyed a meal in a trendy Harlem eatery with his Old Etonian chum.

The Tory pair who fell out in a big way after Boris decided to lead the Brexit campaign appeared to have buried the hatchet as they rolled out of the Red Rooster restaurant last night.

Journalist Joanna Geary spotted Boris leaving the restaurant, and introduced herself.

After she explained she had recently moved to New York from London, Boris said: "Well then, you’ll recognise my friend David," pointing to the former Prime Minister who was following Boris out of the door.

Another diner told Geary the pair had been "bopping along" to the music in the restaurant.

Asked if they were 'dad dancing', the diner reportedly said: "That's about the size of it."

But a source close to Boris Johnson angrily denied the claim.

They said: "I can say categorically that they had dinner and no dancing took place. Someone has simply made it up. It is a lie.

"He would never have done such a thing given the events of the last few days. They had dinner for 60 minutes and then left."

The reunion came just a day after the London terror attack, which as now left five people dead and 40 injured.

Just hours earlier, thousands of Londoners held a candlelit vigil in Trafalgar Square for those killed and injured in the attack.

Andrew Dismore, a member of the London Assembly who was at last night's vigil, said: “It would seem to me to be in rather poor taste when London is coming together. Why was Boris in New York and not here?

“He should have shown greater sensitivity. Especially as he is Foreign Secretary and considering the number of different nationalities who were caught up in the attack. One man who died was American and his wife was seriously injured.”

(Photo: Joanna Geary)
Labour MP Stephen Pound said: "I appreciate that life must go on but this sort of behaviour is inappropriate at best and downright disrespectful at worst."

Lib Dem MP John Pugh said: “You would have thought that Boris would have come back to the UK to be involved in COBR meetings rather than sitting down for a chummy dinner with is old Oxford pal.

“I mean there are things he should actually be doing.

“Maybe if he did a bit more work, and a little less dad dancing he’d actually be a decent Foreign Secretary, at the moment he just jets around the world not doing very much.”

The Foreign Secretary said earlier that the attack was "heartbreaking."

The restaurant's menu includes 'Two-Five Strip Steak', for $36, 'Helga's Meatballs', for $25 and a snack called 'Harlem Mess', which includes fries, chilli and cheese curds.

Michael Gove regrets running to replace David Cameron as Prime Minister and rues pledging support to Boris Johnson

Also available to hungry diners is the 'Obama Short Rib', served with fermented cabbage, scallion pancakes and muddled chili sauce, which costs $88 for two to share.

According to the restaurant's website, DJ Masai is their Thursday night resident. A veteran DJ of 23 years, he plays Hip Hop, R&B, Reggae, Calypso, House, Classics, Go-go, Meringue and Salsa.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36794 Gender:	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #507 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 7:07pm cods wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:12pm: mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 5:29pm: You don't seem like you're laughing Cods. You seem like you're having an enormous tantrum. Promise you those emoticons are me laughing... its not always easy to tell...
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Reply #508 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

Where do the 'extremists' get their ideas and motivation? Islam. Exclusively. Doggedly. Purely.

Fail. If it were that simple, all Muslims would be extremists.

The overwhelming majority are not.

Rabid nonsense. (Have you had your shots yet?)

The vast majority of Muslims are lapsed to one degree or another, and it's due to this 'laziness' and secular self-indulgence that they aren't all sympathetic to the ISIS Muslims who, needless to say, are far more faithful and true to literal Islam than they are, and who are in fact not 'extremists' any more than were soldiers who went and fought Hitler in WWII in the name of loyalty to country.

And then again, most Muslims play the game of delinquently emphasising certain Islamic sacred passages while ignoring others ~ something that is a big no-no considering that unlike the Christian Bible the Koran is the literal Word of God.

No 72 virgin Fatimas for them, I'm afraid.

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