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Reply #465 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 8:16pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 8:13pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:46pm:

Yet the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not in ISIS.

" .. not in ISIS". What the hell's that supposed to mean? The overwhelming majority of Germans weren't members of the Nazi Party either.

THINK before flapping your gums ... THINK!

"Anger as less than A THIRD of Muslim nations sign up to coalition against ISIS.

A TOP British official has taken aim at some Muslim nations during a meeting at the United Nations this week, slamming them for not clamping down on extremism".

Two Thirds of 57 Muslim-majority countries refused to sign-up to a coalition against ISIS

Come on, Mothra - DON'T disappoint me. Please act as a Human Shield on behalf of these Muslim countries who don't want to betray their Muslim brothers fighting in ISIS.

ANY excuse or rationalisation will do.

Oh Herbie, the Geller Report?

That's even more embarrassing for you than citing Pickering.

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Reply #466 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:06pm

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 9:12pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:29pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Secondly, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

100% correct.

But how many of these 'overwhelming majority' are sympathisers without being activists?

Nigel Farage believes it's about 20% in the UK ...

Based on what, exactly, Herr Bert?

Was that number just plucked out of the air, or was it pulled from his arse?

Only one in three British Muslims would tip off the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with terrorist sympathisers, a poll has revealed.

The 'vast majority' of the bastards, two thirds, are terrorist sympathisers or enablers.

Not quite ... but nice sensationalism.

1000 people were surveyed.

The question put to them was:

Q: If you thought that someone who is close to you was getting involved with people who support terrorism in Syria, would you report it to the police?

34% said 'yes'.

4% sympathise with people who take part in suicide bombings

Q: Please tell me tell me whether you sympathise or condemn people who take part in suicide bombing to fight injustice

Net sympathise: 4% (completely sympathise: 1%, sympathise to some extent: 3%)

4% sympathise with people who commit terrorist actions as a form of political protest.

Q: To what extent do you sympathise or condemn with people who commit terrorist acts as a form of political protest?

Net sympathise: 4% (completely sympathise: 0.5: sympathise to some extent: 3.5%)

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-b...

You cannot tell the good one from the bad ones, that's the problem. This guy is talked about as some harmless dupe - until he killed 4 people.

His entire family and all his friends and their families should be either deported or indefinitely detained in the Faroe Islands because there is is absolutely no way that his Muslim circle did not know that he would do something like this. The same for all the other radical Muslims in other Western countries.
Apparently 50 thousand British Muslims download the ISIS propaganda manuals. How many Australians, French, German, American, Canadian Muslims do that and walk among us?
They and all their families and their friends and their families must pay a HUGE price for being in the 66 percent who would keep mum.

By your argument, women should hold all men in suspicion because some rape. How is a woman to tell good men from bad?

Should the families and friends and friends families pay a "huge price" for rapists? I mean, surely there were clues, right?

Don't be SOOOO stupid. Please don't think that being a woman and mentioning rape you somehow need to be taken seriously no matter how idiotic your analogy. You CAN be a complete idiot AND a woman, and you are a living example of that.

Women already are suspicious of men. But rape is not an ideology like Islam is. Rape doesn't have a holy book and a prophet and weekly gatherings, sermons, value systems, codes, aims for world domination, etc, etc.
No rapist goes to gathering like mosques to disseminate rape literature the way Muslims do about terrorism and extremism.

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Re: London Terror Attacks..
Reply #467 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Thousands more people are going to die.

Indeed, they are.

And if you eradicate Islam, and every last Muslim on Earth, terrorism will still continue, and thousands more people will still die.

Why?

Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are Muslims.

In fact, the majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

This is an indisputable fact.

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Apologist for Islamic terrorism.

Go away, Booby.

The adults are talking.

The majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

Stop apologising for non-Muslim murderers.

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Or is it tinyforeskin, motheaten or tinypecca this time.
I wish you would make up your mind

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Reply #468 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:12pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:07pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 9:12pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:29pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 8:07pm:

Secondly, the overwhelming majority of Muslims are not terrorists.

100% correct.

But how many of these 'overwhelming majority' are sympathisers without being activists?

Nigel Farage believes it's about 20% in the UK ...

Based on what, exactly, Herr Bert?

Was that number just plucked out of the air, or was it pulled from his arse?

Only one in three British Muslims would tip off the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with terrorist sympathisers, a poll has revealed.

The 'vast majority' of the bastards, two thirds, are terrorist sympathisers or enablers.

Not quite ... but nice sensationalism.

1000 people were surveyed.

The question put to them was:

Q: If you thought that someone who is close to you was getting involved with people who support terrorism in Syria, would you report it to the police?

34% said 'yes'.

4% sympathise with people who take part in suicide bombings

Q: Please tell me tell me whether you sympathise or condemn people who take part in suicide bombing to fight injustice

Net sympathise: 4% (completely sympathise: 1%, sympathise to some extent: 3%)

4% sympathise with people who commit terrorist actions as a form of political protest.

Q: To what extent do you sympathise or condemn with people who commit terrorist acts as a form of political protest?

Net sympathise: 4% (completely sympathise: 0.5: sympathise to some extent: 3.5%)

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-b...

You cannot tell the good one from the bad ones, that's the problem. This guy is talked about as some harmless dupe - until he killed 4 people.

His entire family and all his friends and their families should be either deported or indefinitely detained in the Faroe Islands because there is is absolutely no way that his Muslim circle did not know that he would do something like this. The same for all the other radical Muslims in other Western countries.
Apparently 50 thousand British Muslims download the ISIS propaganda manuals. How many Australians, French, German, American, Canadian Muslims do that and walk among us?
They and all their families and their friends and their families must pay a HUGE price for being in the 66 percent who would keep mum.

By your argument, women should hold all men in suspicion because some rape. How is a woman to tell good men from bad?

Should the families and friends and friends families pay a "huge price" for rapists? I mean, surely there were clues, right?

Don't be SOOOO stupid. Please don't think that being a woman and mentioning rape you somehow need to be taken seriously no matter how idiotic your analogy. You CAN be a complete idiot AND a woman, and you are a living example of that.

Women already are suspicious of men. But rape is not an ideology like Islam is. Rape doesn't have a holy book and a prophet and weekly gatherings, sermons, value systems, codes, aims for world domination, etc, etc.
No rapist goes to gathering like mosques to disseminate rape literature the way Muslims do about terrorism and extremism.

You honestly don't think some men's views on women are an ideology?

Are you serious?

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Re: London Terror Attacks..
Reply #469 - Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:09pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Thousands more people are going to die.

Indeed, they are.

And if you eradicate Islam, and every last Muslim on Earth, terrorism will still continue, and thousands more people will still die.

Why?

Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are Muslims.

In fact, the majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

This is an indisputable fact.

sprung

Apologist for Islamic terrorism.

Go away, Booby.

The adults are talking.

The majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

Stop apologising for non-Muslim murderers.

Oops, you other persona is slipping bwyannn
Or is it tinyforeskin, motheaten or tinypecca this time.
I wish you would make up your mind

Alas Valkie, more than one person thinks you're a fool.

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Reply #470 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:23am

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Valkie wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 7:04pm:

Thousands more people are going to die.

Indeed, they are.

And if you eradicate Islam, and every last Muslim on Earth, terrorism will still continue, and thousands more people will still die.

Why?

Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are Muslims.

In fact, the majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

This is an indisputable fact.

sprung

Apologist for Islamic terrorism.

Go away, Booby.

The adults are talking.

The majority of terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

Stop apologising for non-Muslim murderers.

Oops, you other persona is slipping bwyannn
Or is it tinyforeskin, motheaten or tinypecca this time.
I wish you would make up your mind

Alas Valkie, more than one person thinks you're a fool.

What you mean is that more than one of your persona thinks of me as such.

And none of them matter as they are all figments of a demented apologist mind.

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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122490 Melbourne Gender:	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #471 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 7:04am Valkie wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 6:23am: What you mean is that more than one of your persona thinks of me as such. And none of them matter as they are all figments of a demented apologist mind. That's right - this forum is full of limp wristed apologists.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #472 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 8:52am John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 7:48am: what a tragedy. of course the usual suspects couldn't wait to get on their soapbox and start their muslim bashing ... Yeah. How predictable. Shame on them. Muslim-bashing. tsk.
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Reply #473 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 9:08am

John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 7:48am:

what a tragedy.

of course the usual suspects couldn't wait to get on their soapbox and start their muslim bashing

Yes.

Filthy apologists.

"He didn't mean to hurt anyone - Islam told him to do it".

"If it wasn't for the Koran, he'd be a peace-loving, law-abiding citizen - honest officer".

How long can these people go on making excuses for criminals?

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Reply #474 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:02pm

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Oh Herbie, the Geller Report?

That's even more embarrassing for you than citing Pickering.

Come on, Mothra, don't stoop to the idiotic lows that your political compatriots here are so often seen to resort to when they have neither the wit nor the wisdom to argue the points.

Geller - Schmeller.

If she's cobbling together a fantasy here, then say so.

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Reply #475 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:02pm:

mothra wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Oh Herbie, the Geller Report?

That's even more embarrassing for you than citing Pickering.

Come on, Mothra, don't stoop to the idiotic lows that your political compatriots here are so often seen to resort to when they have neither the wit nor the wisdom to argue the points.

Geller - Schmeller.

If she's cobbling together a fantasy here, then say so.

She's cobbling together fantasy.

Muslim states' coalition[edit]
Main article: Islamic Military Alliance
On 14 December 2015, Saudi Deputy Crown Prince and Defense Minister Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud announced that 34 countries would join together in the fight against Muslim extremism, which he called a "disease." Based out of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, the coalition includes Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Chad, Comoros, Côte d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Egypt, Gabon, Guinea, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Maldives, Mali, Malaysia, Morocco, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Turkey, Togo, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: London Terror Attacks.. Reply #476 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:38pm mothra wrote on Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:31pm: She's cobbling together fantasy. And you're the only reader to ever notice it ...
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Reply #478 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:45pm

She claims, and i quote:

"Clearly a majority of Muslim nations do not want to fight against terror. On the contrary, they support jihad armies — in accordance with the jihadiic doctrine. “Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers.”

The lip service that Muslim countries pay to Western elites is merely taqiyya."

This is demonstrably untrue and designed to do nothing more than create hated and division.

The facts are that most of the fighting against ISIS is being done by Muslims.

To add to that, there is a coalition of 34 Muslim countries fighting the "disease" that is extremism.

A far cry from her headline of 18, wouldn't you say?

You really need to stop falling for sensationalist garbage, Herbie. It's making you quite paranoid and hateful.

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Reply #479 - Mar 25^th, 2017 at 2:50pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2017 at 6:21pm:

I've never really understood what Frank/Soren means by this. He's been using it as his primary argument for years.

Could people tell Anders Brievik from the 'good' right wing nationalists before he went on his rampage?

The obvious point to be made here is that virtually no criminal who was able to carry out their crime could have been identified apart from the rest of his/her community - otherwise they would have been stopped before it was too late - right?

Nationalism doesn't advocate the killing of non-nationalists and those who leave nationalism.
Nationalism doesn't advocate that the entire world should submit to it. It doesn't have a prophet who mustn't be made fun of on pain of death. Nationalism doesn't treat nationalist women as being worth half a nationalist man.

Islam does all these things. That is why my point is valid - Islam IS openly supremacist, violent, intolerant, it sees itself as destined to dominate everyone else, it promotes apartheid and segregation. These things are treated as eternal, unchangeable truths. If you accept Islam and Mohammed, these doctrines come with the package.

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