Australian Politics Forum - Tired of stupid AGW denialism?

lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #90 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:04pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 3:25pm: I don’t need to. When you shave your face each morning I presume you use a mirror? Nope Don't shave. And nothing to do with IR. IR is not in the visible spectrum.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #91 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:19pm A mirror reflects from the surface but most rays travel through the glass, hit the backing and are reflected out. You are sounding desperate. Go join Booby in his delusions of a LIA. Comes complete with videos and comforting beliefs in conspiracies.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #92 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:27pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:19pm: A mirror reflects from the surface but most rays travel through the glass, hit the backing and are reflected out. Yep. You got that right. Now put your hand on the glass; is it warmer than the rest of the bathroom? That's where you may feel IR. Although I doubt it.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #93 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:32pm I feel it in my greenhouse.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #94 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:32pm: I feel it in my greenhouse. You feel heat in your greenhouse therefore it must be IR.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #95 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:47pm IR is heat. The heat is trapped by the glass (well, plastic) and the inside is also, bwahahahaha, protected from “cooling breezes.”
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #96 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:51pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:47pm: IR is heat. The heat is trapped by the glass (well, plastic) and the inside is also, bwahahahaha, protected from “cooling breezes.” And visible light? What part does that play in heating a greenhouse?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #97 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:00pm It is IR that is the heat part of the spectrum. Heats a greenhouse, heat the Earth.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21507 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #98 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:10pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:00pm: It is IR that is the heat part of the spectrum. Heats a greenhouse, heat the Earth. Wrong. All parts of the spectrum provide heat.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #99 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:11pm IR the most by a huge margin. Why do you talk so much rubbish?
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #100 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 8:33pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:11pm:

IR the most by a huge margin.

Why do you talk so much rubbish?

"Thus, sunlight's composition at ground level, per square meter, with the sun at the zenith, is about 527 watts of infrared radiation, 445 watts of visible light, and 32 watts of ultraviolet radiation."

https://ag.tennessee.edu/solar/Pages/What%20Is%20Solar%20Energy/Sunlight.aspx

So 52.7% Infrared, 44.5% Visible light. Not a "huge" margin. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #101 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 8:36pm We are talking about reflected light, like in a greenhouse. try to keep up Lees
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #102 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 8:43pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 8:36pm:

We are talking about reflected light, like in a greenhouse.

try to keep up Lee

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 6:47pm:

IR is heat. The heat is trapped by the glass (well, plastic) and the inside is also, bwahahahaha, protected from “cooling breezes.”

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:00pm:

It is IR that is the heat part of the spectrum. Heats a greenhouse, heat the Earth.

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 7:11pm:

IR the most by a huge margin.

So you talk about IR giving the most heating by a "huge" margin.

Then you go back to it being reflected light, when we know it is refracted light that will devolve to the solar spectrum.

Reflected light has heat from IR, visible and UV light the same as direct sun.

Most light passes through glass or plastic, depending on your greenhouse. Where does the reflected light (energy) go?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism? Reply #103 - Mar 22^nd, 2017 at 9:04pm Heat that hits a surface loses energy and so increases in wavelength. That is how greenhouses and GHGs work.
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Reply #104 - Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 9:33am

More for Lees to pretend to read and understand:

Quote:

It is extremely likely [95 percent confidence] more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by the anthropogenic increase in greenhouse gas concentrations and other anthropogenic forcings together … The best estimate of the human-induced contribution to warming is similar to the observed warming over this period … The contribution from natural forcings is likely to be in the range of −0.1°C to 0.1°C, and from internal variability is likely to be in the range of −0.1°C to 0.1°C.

Oh dear, poor desperate Lees! Natural variation adds practically nothing to heating! Ohhhh noes!

Natural variation:

• the El Nino/La Nina cycle

• volcanoes spewing aerosols into the upper atmosphere. The aerosols reflect incoming sunlight thus cooling the earth.

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