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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #15 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm
 
We know Booby doesn’t understand the silly, unresearched videos he posts here and PA and they are ignored on PA and ignored on here  Grin  Grin Grin

But I am agog, on tenterhooks to hear how the specific heat of CO2 has anything to do with its greenhouse properties. I am prepared to be amazed, amazed I tells ya!

I think it has to do with a Type II error but won’t frighten Lees with more stats, he nearly had a heart attack the first time I did that   Roll Eyes Smiley
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #16 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:18pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
I think it has to do with a Type II error but won’t frighten Lees with more stats, he nearly had a heart attack the first time I did that   Roll Eyes Smiley


It's one of lees tactics of obfuscation that he expects us to do his research for him.
If he was a genuine and honest debater he would present the point he is actually trying to make.
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Reply #17 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:22pm
 
I think Lees is scared poopless that AGW is real and is desperate to shut down discussion of it.
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Reply #18 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:20pm
 
CO2 HAS NEVER CONTROLLED TEMPERATURE ON EARTH



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Warming by the end of this century

IPCC computer models  projected warming……… +2.78° C / Century

Observations the last 25 years………………………….. +1.01° C / Century


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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #19 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:24pm
 
Thanks Ajax,
that deserves to go on my thread at polanimal.

http://ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14468&p=204871#p204871
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Reply #20 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:27pm
 
Another video to be ignored there?
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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:35pm
 
Ajax, no matter how many times you drag up and post those charts the world is warming and the sea levels are rising.

Re the Ordovician/Silurian etc: how long ago was that, Ajax? What life was about, what continents and what was the state of the sun?

The world IS warming.

There is one species I can think of that has survived unchanged since precambrian times. We do have some here. Apart from that, a trilobite does not look much like a crab, a squid or octopus does not look much like a bellamite (aka Belemnoids ) or ammonite and they aren’t too far apart in time. No fish today looks like Ostracoderms.

Two supercontinents formed and broke apart in all that time.
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #22 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:04pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:49am:
How is the specific heat of CO2 related to its greenhouse effect, Lees?


The specific heat of CO2 has less than 1. That means it warms faster than the surrounding air and also cools faster than the surrounding air.

the table is here-

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/carbon-dioxide-d_974.html

You notice it is not a constant, but varies with temperature. The cooler it gets the lower the specific heat.

Remember what happens with temperature at elevation?

No warming blanket of CO2 for you.
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Reply #23 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
What does the specific heat of CO2 have to do with its greenhouse effect, or the absorption and re-emitting of certain frequencies of infrared?

As the earth heats the mixture of gases that is the atmosphere will also heat, so will the seas.

Talking about the seas, they are warming rather faster than was thought:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1489906523/0#0

Oh dear, poor Lees!
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #24 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:11pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
the world is warming and the sea levels are rising.


And you didn't expect this to happen in an interglacial?

Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
There is one species I can think of that has survived unchanged since precambrian times.


Corals?
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Reply #25 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:13pm
 
You don’t know much do you Lees?
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Reply #26 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
What does the specific heat of CO2 have to do with its greenhouse effect, or the absorption and re-emitting of certain frequencies of infrared?



Please tell us the time delay between absorption and re-emission of the IR.
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Reply #27 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:17pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:13pm:
You don’t know much do you Lees?


Yes. But I can be re-educated.
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Reply #28 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:28pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
What does the specific heat of CO2 have to do with its greenhouse effect, or the absorption and re-emitting of certain frequencies of infrared?



Please tell us the time delay between absorption and re-emission of the IR.

That is not important.

Can you work out why this absorption/emission of IR is important, i.e. how it acts to warm the atmosphere and so the land and sea? I am sure you can work it out.
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Re: Tired of stupid AGW denialism?
Reply #29 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
Talking about the seas, they are warming rather faster than was thought:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1489906523/0#0



Let's see -

"First, we corrected past data for known biases in measurements"

From your reference.

You mean like Karl et al when they increased the buoy data to compensate for warm engine room temperatures. They used a "cooling bias" on the buoy data.

"As buoy measurements have replaced ship measurements, this had hidden some of the real-world warming.

After correcting for this “cold bias,” researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration concluded in the journal Science that the oceans have actually warmed 0.12 degrees "

"Nowadays, buoys cover much of the ocean and that data is beginning to supplant ship data. But the buoys report slightly cooler temperatures because they measure water directly from the ocean instead of after a trip through a warm engine room."

http://news.berkeley.edu/2017/01/04/global-warming-hiatus-disproved-again/

" Second, we related the temperature measurements to results calculated from advanced climate computer models"

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