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Reply #60 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:41pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
You blithered about cold spots. I pointed out they are not that cold.



So you blithered about 30ºC drops. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #61 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 4:54pm:
That is correct, Lees.

It can be 40°C on the surface and 10°C a couple of metres below that



lee wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
i can see you have been to the beach and walked in and then hit a cold spot. However where did  the ocean the ocean get to 40ºC?



It should be clear, even to you, that you were the one introduced temperature drops into the conversation, if you follow the timeline.
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Reply #62 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
Nah, trying to get away from heat bleaching corals you came up with weird irrelevant crap.'

Don’t you ever get embarrassed by the crap you post?
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Reply #63 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:22pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:50pm:
Nah, trying to get away from heat bleaching corals you came up with weird irrelevant crap.'



So your irrelevant crap doesn't matter? 40ºC down to 10ºC. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #64 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:24pm
 
Blah blah blah
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Reply #65 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:26pm
 
We know high temperatures bleach coral and can kill it.

How did the temperatures get so high? El Nino on top of AGW.
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Reply #66 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
Blah blah blah



Yep that's what you do. I'll leave you to your own little fantasy world.
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Reply #67 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:31pm
 
No, you won’t.

Anytime a discussion gets interesting you derail it.

Ajax might get involved but he just posts his little lucky charms aka denier videos/charts and can be ignored.

You get in there and derail discussion.
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Reply #68 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 12:15pm
 
A new perspective on GBR coral bleaching.

"It is puzzling why the recent 2017 publication in Nature, Global Warming And Recurrent Mass Bleaching Of Corals by Hughes et al. ignored the most critical factor affecting the 2016 severe bleaching along the northern Great Barrier Reef – the regional fall in sea level amplified by El Niño. Instead Hughes 2017 suggested the extensive bleaching was due to increased water temperatures induced by CO2 warming.

In contrast in Coral Mortality Induced by the 2015–2016 El-Niño in Indonesia: The Effect Of Rapid Sea Level Fall by Ampou 2017, Indonesian biologists had reported that a drop in sea level had bleached the upper 15 cm of the reefs before temperatures had reached NOAA’ Coral Reef Watch’s bleaching thresholds. As discussed by Ampou 2017, the drop in sea level had likely been experienced throughout much of the Coral Triangle including the northern Great Barrier Reef (GBR), and then accelerated during the El Niño. They speculated sea level fall also contributed to the bleaching during the 1998 El Niño. Consistent with the effects of sea level fall, other researchers reported bleaching in the GBR was greatest near the surface then declined rapidly with depth. Indeed if falling sea level was the main diver in 2016’s reef mortalities, and this can be tested, then most catastrophic assertions made by Hughes 2017 would be invalid."


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"Although Hughes 2017 suggests the pattern of recurring bleaching is simply a function of temperature and global warming, as illustrated in Hughes’ Figure “e” below, recurring bleaching is not a global phenomenon. (Black dots represent reefs that bleached during all 3 surveys: 1998, 2002, 2016; light gray represents reefs that bleached only once, and dark gray reefs bleached twice.) ."

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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/04/05/falling-sea-level-the-critical-factor-in-...

"Guest essay by Jim Steele

Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University and author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism"

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Reply #69 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 12:41pm
 
More denier rubbish from denier Lees.
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Reply #70 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
So you don't agree shallower water is warmer than deeper water? Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 2:58pm
 
“Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism”

Like all your crap—denier rubbish.
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Reply #72 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 3:12pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 6th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
The Effect Of Rapid Sea Level Fall by Ampou 2017



So did you find the paper, or did you just decide they were climate shills, because they disagree with the meme? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #73 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:05pm
 
It was pretty obviously a propaganda paper.
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Reply #74 - Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
It was pretty obviously a propaganda paper.



You mean like John Cook's 97%? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Published in European Geosciences Union magazine Biogeosciences. Must be a hard core denier site. Wink
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