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Reply #31 - May 21^st, 2017 at 12:17pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 9:14am:

they should replace Spicer with a Woman..

then they can call the media Sexist every time they attack her.. Wink

Indeed they should. Kelly Anne Conway could do well at this job. Still, Spicer had more party cache. Mr Trump liked his military experience.

Anyway, when Trump bans press briefings, the White House won't need any of them.

We will make Amerika great again.

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Reply #32 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 7:44am

Big Donger wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 12:17pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 9:14am:

they should replace Spicer with a Woman..

then they can call the media Sexist every time they attack her.. Wink

Indeed they should. Kelly Anne Conway could do well at this job. Still, Spicer had more party cache. Mr Trump liked his military experience.

Anyway, when Trump bans press briefings, the White House won't need any of them.

We will make Amerika great again.

Lol, military experience?

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Sean Spicer Reply #33 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:08am The loss of Press Briefings wont change anything much anyhow. the WH has lied so much that the briefings are largely entertainment rather than information.
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Reply #34 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:40am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 7:44am:

Big Donger wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 12:17pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 9:14am:

they should replace Spicer with a Woman..

then they can call the media Sexist every time they attack her.. Wink

Indeed they should. Kelly Anne Conway could do well at this job. Still, Spicer had more party cache. Mr Trump liked his military experience.

Anyway, when Trump bans press briefings, the White House won't need any of them.

We will make Amerika great again.

Lol, military experience?

Wasn't Spicer an officer in the Marines?

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Reply #35 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:45am

Big Donger wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 7:44am:

Big Donger wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 12:17pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2017 at 9:14am:

they should replace Spicer with a Woman..

then they can call the media Sexist every time they attack her.. Wink

Indeed they should. Kelly Anne Conway could do well at this job. Still, Spicer had more party cache. Mr Trump liked his military experience.

Anyway, when Trump bans press briefings, the White House won't need any of them.

We will make Amerika great again.

Lol, military experience?

Wasn't Spicer an officer in the Marines?

He's in the Naval Reserve essentially doing what he does now.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #36 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:52am

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:08am:

The loss of Press Briefings wont change anything much anyhow. the WH has lied so much that the briefings are largely entertainment rather than information.

Sure, but this alone says much about the administration. If their response to questions from a free press is to lie and evade, this is news. If their take on open and transparent government is to obfuscare and cover their tracks, this says a lot about an administration that claimed to be taking government back to the people.

The whole point of press briefings is the president's response to tough questions. If the Trump administration decides to go ahead with written press releases and appearing only on sympathetic media like Fox and Friends, this effectively ends any semblance of government accountability.

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Reply #37 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 1:16pm

Big Donger wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:52am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:08am:

The loss of Press Briefings wont change anything much anyhow. the WH has lied so much that the briefings are largely entertainment rather than information.

Sure, but this alone says much about the administration. If their response to questions from a free press is to lie and evade, this is news. If their take on open and transparent government is to obfuscare and cover their tracks, this says a lot about an administration that claimed to be taking government back to the people.

The whole point of press briefings is the president's response to tough questions. If the Trump administration decides to go ahead with written press releases and appearing only on sympathetic media like Fox and Friends, this effectively ends any semblance of government accountability.

I agree, but it is also true that they have never done that. They have lied, obsfucated and denied provable facts. Losing the press briefings would change nothing which is the point I was making. Spicer and co are so bad at this that losing them would not matter.

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Reply #38 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 1:16pm:

Big Donger wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:52am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:08am:

The loss of Press Briefings wont change anything much anyhow. the WH has lied so much that the briefings are largely entertainment rather than information.

Sure, but this alone says much about the administration. If their response to questions from a free press is to lie and evade, this is news. If their take on open and transparent government is to obfuscare and cover their tracks, this says a lot about an administration that claimed to be taking government back to the people.

The whole point of press briefings is the president's response to tough questions. If the Trump administration decides to go ahead with written press releases and appearing only on sympathetic media like Fox and Friends, this effectively ends any semblance of government accountability.

I agree, but it is also true that they have never done that. They have lied, obsfucated and denied provable facts. Losing the press briefings would change nothing which is the point I was making. Spicer and co are so bad at this that losing them would not matter.

I agree with your point. My point is their denial of proven facts is most newsworthy, and it's good to see Spicer face the press and have to stutter through it.

It was also newsworthy to see Trump leave his own press opportunity/executive order as soon as the press started asking questions. The executive order?

It stayed on the Oval Office desk, unsigned.

So much for making Amerika great again, but that's the point. Trump's lies have gotten the better of him. They're on show for all the world to see, and the media deserves every chance it can get to hold the mirror up to nature, as it were.

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Reply #39 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 3:44pm

Big Donger wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 1:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 1:16pm:

Big Donger wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:52am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 10:08am:

The loss of Press Briefings wont change anything much anyhow. the WH has lied so much that the briefings are largely entertainment rather than information.

Sure, but this alone says much about the administration. If their response to questions from a free press is to lie and evade, this is news. If their take on open and transparent government is to obfuscare and cover their tracks, this says a lot about an administration that claimed to be taking government back to the people.

The whole point of press briefings is the president's response to tough questions. If the Trump administration decides to go ahead with written press releases and appearing only on sympathetic media like Fox and Friends, this effectively ends any semblance of government accountability.

I agree, but it is also true that they have never done that. They have lied, obsfucated and denied provable facts. Losing the press briefings would change nothing which is the point I was making. Spicer and co are so bad at this that losing them would not matter.

I agree with your point. My point is their denial of proven facts is most newsworthy, and it's good to see Spicer face the press and have to stutter through it.

It was also newsworthy to see Trump leave his own press opportunity/executive order as soon as the press started asking questions. The executive order?

It stayed on the Oval Office desk, unsigned.

So much for making Amerika great again, but that's the point. Trump's lies have gotten the better of him. They're on show for all the world to see, and the media deserves every chance it can get to hold the mirror up to nature, as it were.

of course the Press Briefings should remain. My point is that truth, honesty and accuracy are not damaged by ending them nor enhanced by keeping them. There are, at best, entertainment.

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Reply #41 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:29pm

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Keep the press briefings, just dont admit untrustworthy purveyors of news.

Theres nothing sacred about "mainstream" media outlets, no reason why your news has to come through corporate channels. Calling it a "free press" must be a joke.

Who are the "untrustworthy" ones and what is the selection criteria?

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Reply #42 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:38pm

Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:29pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Keep the press briefings, just dont admit untrustworthy purveyors of news.

Theres nothing sacred about "mainstream" media outlets, no reason why your news has to come through corporate channels. Calling it a "free press" must be a joke.

Who are the "untrustworthy" ones and what is the selection criteria?

Why would I come up with selection criteria?

If i was paid to do so, it wouldnt be hard, but a bit of a waste of time otherwise, wouldnt you say?

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Reply #43 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 5:01pm

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:38pm:

Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:29pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2017 at 4:18pm:

Keep the press briefings, just dont admit untrustworthy purveyors of news.

Theres nothing sacred about "mainstream" media outlets, no reason why your news has to come through corporate channels. Calling it a "free press" must be a joke.

Who are the "untrustworthy" ones and what is the selection criteria?

Why would I come up with selection criteria?

If i was paid to do so, it wouldnt be hard, but a bit of a waste of time otherwise, wouldnt you say?

Well, you ought to because you introduced the term 'untrustworthy' into the discussion.

I think you know you are heading for a corner.

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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102389	Re: Sean Spicer Reply #44 - May 22^nd, 2017 at 5:19pm Yes, Honky, which media outlets are untrustworthy? I'm curious too.
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