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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #60 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

Mothra, when you say it was more successful, do you mean they were told: "Yes, of course we will stop enhancing our daughters' genitals for the enjoyment of the old man next door, but only if you convince the infidels to stop saying mutilate. Every time I hear that word I reach for my stanley knife. Go on, do it, before I start cutting again...."

No.

And for the fourth time, it is not a Muslim only practice.

See how i answer your questions FD? Any chance you could answer any of mine?

"And while you are at it, please stop saying sex slave. Islam commands us to treat our female slaves and our goats with the same respect we do our wives. You can achieve many things if you respect us."

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #62 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am

Gordon wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:18am:

This is just bloody sick.

Female genital cutting common in Indonesia, offered as part of child delivery by birth clinics

Performed on babies

The 2001-2002 study showed that 85.2% of FGMs was performed before girls reach the age of nine. The 2013 survey showed the age to be going down: 96.7% of FGMs were performed before the age of five years. Of that, 82.8% were performed on babies between the ages 0 and 11 months.

Indonesia tried to ban the practice in 2006. But religious clerics reacted by releasing an edict declaring that it was part of a religious practice. In 2010, the Indonesian Health Ministry released a regulation that allowed medical personnel to perform female genital cutting on young girls.

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https://theconversation.com/female-genital-cutting-common-in-indonesia-offered-a
s-part-of-child-delivery-by-birth-clinics-54379[/url]

That is just appalling. Poor little ones.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #63 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:21am

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

Mothra, when you say it was more successful, do you mean they were told: "Yes, of course we will stop enhancing our daughters' genitals for the enjoyment of the old man next door, but only if you convince the infidels to stop saying mutilate. Every time I hear that word I reach for my stanley knife. Go on, do it, before I start cutting again...."

No.

And for the fourth time, it is not a Muslim only practice.

See how i answer your questions FD? Any chance you could answer any of mine?

"And while you are at it, please stop saying sex slave. Islam commands us to treat our female slaves and our goats with the same respect we do our wives. You can achieve many things if you respect us."

So that's a 'no' then?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #64 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:22am mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:15am: Any chance you could answer any of mine? you have more chance of winning lotto than FD honestly answering something.
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #65 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am

Gordon wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:05am:

gordon and mothra between you you ruin so many threads.. never fails..

agree to disagree...because this nonsense takes over every thread the two of you get into!!!

now good old islamphobia has raised its ugly head...

AGAIN

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well Cods, I've actually never linked FGM exclusively to Islam as I understand it's a regional and cultural issue.

Scanning the list of countries that practice FGM the majority would be Muslims, and I've also linked where Imams have endorsed FGM, Indonesian I believe but I don't use FGM as a Muslim bashing tool, that's all in Mothra's deluded mind and she owes me an apology for lying about it.

its the endless arguing between you that gets me....

doesnt matter what the topic.. thats where it ends up in the trashbin....sorry gordy but does every post require and answer??>. some times its better to ignore..

I am thinking mothra has lost her way here...

now we stigmatise these poor victims of this practice....

how where I have never seen this either...

'we'... she uses meaning all of us....how come I have never seen any of it in that case.?..

as far as I know its against the LAW of Australia thats all I am interested in....

dont give a fig about what its called..

ITS BREAKING OUR LAWS....

for males as far as I know it isnt against the LAW..

but females...yes it is...and those caught out doing it need a good dose of jail time..

dont like our LAWS dont come here... simple really..

it is mostly a religious thing gordy... no denying that...
if it was a Catholic practice I would feel the same way nauseated.. Angry

to some extent... maybe that needs to be asked when they apply to come here??????.....like are you married. Roll Eyes

just a thought

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #66 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am:

What a load of appeasing BS Mothra

it is what it is

This PC name changing to appease sensibilities from being offending is a plague/epidemic

It's got absolutely nothing to do with being PC.

It is about incorporating the women who have been nicked and not disfigured.

It is because that is what the women themselves actually want.

It iss because FGC is the preferred terminology to achieve positive outcomes.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #67 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:22am: mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:15am: Any chance you could answer any of mine? you have more chance of winning lotto than FD honestly answering something. So it would seem. Bit of one trick pony, isn't he?
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #68 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:27am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

I'm listening to what the women themselves say Cods. By and largee, they prefer not to be referred to as mutilated.

Don't you think they've been disempowered enough?

I'm also listening to the experts telling us what terminology works on getting cutters to put down their tools and parents not to expose their daughters to this horrendous experience.

I'm putting the girls and women before my outrage because i wan results.

I'm about results, Cods

you didnt answer the questions mothra......are you doing an fd???>..

where do you meet these women....who have all been stigmatised by Australians....??????????..

I am interested....you say not all are muslims.. so name others sop we at least know

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #69 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:28am mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am: So it would seem. I don't recall ever seeing FD answer a straight question with a straight answer.
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #70 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:29am

cods wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:27am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

I'm listening to what the women themselves say Cods. By and largee, they prefer not to be referred to as mutilated.

Don't you think they've been disempowered enough?

I'm also listening to the experts telling us what terminology works on getting cutters to put down their tools and parents not to expose their daughters to this horrendous experience.

I'm putting the girls and women before my outrage because i wan results.

I'm about results, Cods

you didnt answer the questions mothra......are you doing an fd???>..

where do you meet these women....who have all been stigmatised by Australians....??????????..

I am interested....you say not all are muslims.. so name others sop we at least know

The women have spoken openly.

I didn't say "stigmatized by Australians", i said stigmatized by the ter.

Christians and Animists also perform FGC.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #71 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:30am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am:

What a load of appeasing BS Mothra

it is what it is

This PC name changing to appease sensibilities from being offending is a plague/epidemic

It's got absolutely nothing to do with being PC.

It is about incorporating the women who have been nicked and not disfigured.

It is because that is what the women themselves actually want.

It iss because FGC is the preferred terminology to achieve positive outcomes.

No the women want to weaken the stance against FGM.

Tell me why they(the women) even need to be nicked?

It certainly isn't because of a medical need or cosmetic repair.

Change the name .... then FGM disappears.

Softc0ck appeasement.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #72 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:33am

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:30am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:24am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:20am:

What a load of appeasing BS Mothra

it is what it is

This PC name changing to appease sensibilities from being offending is a plague/epidemic

It's got absolutely nothing to do with being PC.

It is about incorporating the women who have been nicked and not disfigured.

It is because that is what the women themselves actually want.

It iss because FGC is the preferred terminology to achieve positive outcomes.

No the women want to weaken the stance against FGM.

Tell me why they(the women) even need to be nicked?

It certainly isn't because of a medical need or cosmetic repair.

Change the name .... then FGM disappears.

Softc0ck appeasement.

You're quite wrong, as i have already proven in this thread.

I tire of repeating myself because people won't read back but the people at the coal face, those that are getting cutters to put down their tools and families not to expose their daughters to this brutal practice use the term FGC.

They find it works better.

I've already explained why.

See if you can come up with some reasons on your own.

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Reply #73 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:45am

No it's because they don't like the term "mutilation".

And in many of these cases that certainly is what happens to them.

Tell it how it is ....

anything else is appeasement

it's cutting that causes mutilation of a girls genitals to reduce/remove her ability to enjoy sexual intercourse or activity

in the draconian paternal belief that it will stop any promiscuity or adultery.

throwing the "cutter" in jail without sentence softening

and doing the same to parents who dare take their daughters overseas to get this done

is what needs to happen.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #74 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:48am

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:45am:

No it's because they don't like the term "mutilation".

And in many of these cases that certainly is what happens to them.

Tell it how it is ....

anything else is appeasement

it's cutting that causes mutilation of a girls genitals to reduce/remove her ability to enjoy sexual intercourse or activity

in the draconian paternal belief that it will stop any promiscuity or adultery.

throwing the "cutter" in jail without sentence softening

and doing the same to parents who dare take their daughters overseas to get this done

is what needs to happen.

So you're more interested in your outrage than getting results..

Just so we're clear.

And you don't care what the women themselves want to be called?

Gotcha.

Just so long as it's all about you.

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