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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #30 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:47am

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:15am:

Good point mothra. We should also stop trying to prevent Muslims raping people in case we stigmatise rape victims.

That's not even remotely relative.

Would you like to try again?

Did I say rape? Sorry. I meant mutilating the genitals of little girls, which is completely different. We should stop trying to prevent Muslims doing this, in case the women who are already victims feel stigmatised. We must stamp out cultural imperialism so that Muslims can continue mutilating girls for another 1400 years.

Here's a solution I proposed yeserday which Mothra thinks it too culturally insensitive.

All children deemed at risk of being subjected to FGM to have yearly examinations by a paediatrician. Failure by parents to comply would result in both parents being jailed for 10 years.

Any child found to have undergone FGM in Australia or overseas, both parents jailed for life no prospect of parole.

Parents of children U18 who've been subjected to FGM would be ineligible for immigration to any western country.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #31 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:48am mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am: Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices. FD? Noooo. You can't be serious. His only concern is for the women
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #32 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:48am Wher have i defended it Baron? I a simply listening to the women and to the people who are gaining successes. I evidently a strong opponent of the practice. Stop making a fool of yourself and read the articles i've posted.
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #33 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:15am:

Good point mothra. We should also stop trying to prevent Muslims raping people in case we stigmatise rape victims.

That's not even remotely relative.

Would you like to try again?

Did I say rape? Sorry. I meant mutilating the genitals of little girls, which is completely different. We should stop trying to prevent Muslims doing this, in case the women who are already victims feel stigmatised. We must stamp out cultural imperialism so that Muslims can continue mutilating girls for another 1400 years.

No FD. The people that are fighting this and gaining successes n the ground use the term FGC. They are getting cutters to abandon their tools. THy find the term "mutilating" has an adverse effect on getting people to change their minds.

Can you think why? Do try.

Dd you actually read the articles i posted? I think not. The answers are in there.

And why the need to single out Muslims? Did you know Christians and Aniists perform FGC also? Or are you not worried about them.

Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices.

You are evidencing that strongly.

I think you will believe anything Mothra.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #34 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am

mothra wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:05am:

To be sensitive to women who've undergone the procedure, I'd be happy to refer to them as having undergone cutting, but the legal term for the procedure and the people who perform or encourage it should remain as FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

You didn't answer this question, Gordy.

Care to give it a stab?

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #35 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:50am

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:19am:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:15am:

Good point mothra. We should also stop trying to prevent Muslims raping people in case we stigmatise rape victims.

That's not even remotely relative.

Would you like to try again?

Did I say rape? Sorry. I meant mutilating the genitals of little girls, which is completely different. We should stop trying to prevent Muslims doing this, in case the women who are already victims feel stigmatised. We must stamp out cultural imperialism so that Muslims can continue mutilating girls for another 1400 years.

No FD. The people that are fighting this and gaining successes n the ground use the term FGC. They are getting cutters to abandon their tools. THy find the term "mutilating" has an adverse effect on getting people to change their minds.

Can you think why? Do try.

Dd you actually read the articles i posted? I think not. The answers are in there.

And why the need to single out Muslims? Did you know Christians and Aniists perform FGC also? Or are you not worried about them.

Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices.

You are evidencing that strongly.

I think you will believe anything Mothra.

Scintillating comeback.

Best you've got?

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #36 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:51am

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:46am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:22am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:18am:

mothra wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 10:58am:

It seems Female Genital Cutting is now thee prefered term over Feale Genital Mutilation.

Muslims and their apologists like to use political correctness to downplay female genital mutilation, their moral bankruptcy has to be seen to be believed.

Why don't you call it a ritual nick or has that already been tried, at least Pru Goward toldthem to bugger off when they tried that nonsense.
abc.net.au/news/2010-05-28/doctors-consider-less-severe-female-circumcision/8447...

No you muppet. FGC incorporates the women who are simply cut (which can have life long problems) with the women who are ore horrendously disfigured.

It is, after all, about the women and not your outrage.

This is what you're defending,there is no cure for your stupidity.

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Female circumcision has not been prescribed for no reason, rather there is wisdom behind it and it brings many benefits.

The secretions of the labia minora accumulate in uncircumcised women and turn rancid.I have seen many cases of sickness caused by the lack of circumcision.

Circumcision reduces excessive sensitivity of the clitoris which may cause it to increase in size to 3 centimeters when aroused,which is annoying to the husband, especially at the time of intercourse.

Another benefit of circumcision is that it prevents stimulation of the clitoris which makes it grow large in such a manner that it causes pain.

Circumcision prevents spasms of the clitoris which are a knid of inflammation.

Circumcision reduces excessive sexual desire. ( a muslim man can have 4 wives)

For us in the muslim world,female circumcision is,above all else obedience to Islam.

And Allah knows best.
islamqa.info/en/45528

An Islamic source tells you why female genital mutilation is done and morally bankrupt retards defend this religion.

Call it what it is, it's female genital mutilation don't support the bearded nutjobs who preach Islam by downplaying it.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52690 At my desk.	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #37 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:52am Do you think we would have more luck fighting rape and sex slavery if we came up with a less offensive sounding word? I'm sure you can find evidence for this on the internet.
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #38 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:52am

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am:

Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices.

FD? Noooo. You can't be serious. Shocked

His only concern is for the women Roll Eyes

It's disgusting how men like FD, Baron and Gordy continue to abuse these women to eed their Islamophobia.

No attr how any ties i've stipulated that FGC isn't a Muslim only practice it's still "Muslim this" and "Muslim that".

It's beneath contempt.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: FGC, not FGM Reply #39 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:54am freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:52am: Do you think we would have more luck fighting rape and sex slavery if we came up with a less offensive sounding word? I'm sure you can find evidence for this on the internet. Those words don't stigmatize the survivors. THe survivors are not asking you not to use those words.
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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #40 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:55am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:05am:

To be sensitive to women who've undergone the procedure, I'd be happy to refer to them as having undergone cutting, but the legal term for the procedure and the people who perform or encourage it should remain as FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

You didn't answer this question, Gordy.

Care to give it a stab?

Actually, I'd let them use whatever terminology makes them comfortable when on a one to one basis, but the global description would remain FGM.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #41 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:56am

Gordon wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:05am:

To be sensitive to women who've undergone the procedure, I'd be happy to refer to them as having undergone cutting, but the legal term for the procedure and the people who perform or encourage it should remain as FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

You didn't answer this question, Gordy.

Care to give it a stab?

Actually, I'd let them use whatever terminology makes them comfortable when on a one to one basis, but the global description would remain FGM.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #42 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:58am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:52am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am:

Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices.

FD? Noooo. You can't be serious. Shocked

His only concern is for the women Roll Eyes

It's disgusting how men like FD, Baron and Gordy continue to abuse these women to eed their Islamophobia.

No attr how any ties i've stipulated that FGC isn't a Muslim only practice it's still "Muslim this" and "Muslim that".

It's beneath contempt.

Show me one single post where I've linked FGM exclusively to Islam or apologise.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #43 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:59am

Gordon wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:52am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:48am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:35am:

Seems to me you are a classic example of a man who doesn't really care about the women and the girls, just wants to use the issue to proote your own prejudices.

FD? Noooo. You can't be serious. Shocked

His only concern is for the women Roll Eyes

It's disgusting how men like FD, Baron and Gordy continue to abuse these women to eed their Islamophobia.

No attr how any ties i've stipulated that FGC isn't a Muslim only practice it's still "Muslim this" and "Muslim that".

It's beneath contempt.

Show me one single post where I've linked FGM exclusively to Islam or apologise.

I'm not trawling through hundreds of threads in which you have evidenced your Islamophobia to feed your ego.

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Re: FGC, not FGM
Reply #44 - Mar 11^th, 2017 at 10:00am

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:56am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:55am:

mothra wrote on Mar 11^th, 2017 at 9:49am:

mothra wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:09am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:05am:

To be sensitive to women who've undergone the procedure, I'd be happy to refer to them as having undergone cutting, but the legal term for the procedure and the people who perform or encourage it should remain as FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

You didn't answer this question, Gordy.

Care to give it a stab?

Actually, I'd let them use whatever terminology makes them comfortable when on a one to one basis, but the global description would remain FGM.

Why would you elect to be "sensitive" to the women individually but not collectively?

Because I'm a kind sensitive guy.

Why don't you agree that girls deemed high risk of FGM shoudn't have yearly check ups? Why do you want to put them at risk?

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