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Mar 6th, 2017 at 8:59pm
 
Donald Trump supporters want to vote for him even if he lies, study finds

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-02/trump-supporters-will-still-vote-for-him-even-if-he-lies/8320100

Supporters of US President Donald Trump are more likely to believe what he says, and even after they are shown it is not true, they still want to vote for him, research has shown.

The University of Western Australia study was undertaken by researcher Briony Swire-Thompson and School of Psychological Science associate professor Ullrich Ecker in late 2015 as the US election campaign was ratcheting up in intensity and rhetoric.

Researchers gave more than 2,500 Republican and Democrat participants a selection of Mr Trump's statements and asked whether they believed the statements, some attributed to him, others not.

"If they knew the information was from Trump, Republican supporters believed the information more and the opposite was true for Democrats, as soon as they heard it was from Trump, it didn't matter if it was true or false," he said.

He said when the subjects were told the information was fake, it had some effect, but did not really change their voting intention.

The researchers were also surprised Trump supporters became confused about what was true or false, even after being told.

"As soon as the information was associated with Trump, people got confused and after a week or so they had a hard time remembering what was true or false," he said.

Fed up with normal politicians

Mr Ecker said many people were "fed up" with politicians and did not want politicians to "tiptoe" around issues, but it meant vulnerable people might be exploited.

"People in desperate situations, who are feeling left behind and neglected by the existing system, they become vulnerable to leaders who may not have their best issues at heart," he said.

"If people feel they are being left behind and are having trouble putting food on the table, they long for strong leaders and then fall for [those] leaders.

"We're kind of used to politicians cherry-picking and twisting the truth a little bit, but this was a new quality, not only in the US but also in the UK, politicians were saying outright false things, and getting away with it."

Social media echo chamber?

Mr Ecker said the ubiquity of social media allowed people to exist in political "echo chambers", and their views and opinions were rarely challenged.

"The rise of social media means people can choose more readily what to believe because they can find support for whatever they want to believe if they go to the right place online," he said.

"People like Trump are using social media such as Twitter to speak their mind, they are using the people's language."

Mr Ecker said the rise of this type of discourse could be seen in Australia as well, with the popularity of One Nation and non-traditional politicians.

"The mining boom has ended, people are unhappy and unemployed," he said.

"People in that situation are vulnerable to promises and of people getting up and saying 'it is the fault of this group."
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Re: Trump supporters the most loyal
Reply #1 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm
 
Of course they are. Because they don't vote for Trump the man, they vote for the ideal they think he represents. Thus it doesn't matter what Trump does - the lies, the hypocricy, the sheer incompetency - not even on their radar. They simply don't care. In fact the more Trump unhinges, the more they can simply dismiss it as yet more leftist conspiracy against him.

Just look at the fanboys on this site - their blind allegiance is really something.
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Reply #2 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
Of course they are. Because they don't vote for Trump the man, they vote for the ideal they think he represents. Thus it doesn't matter what Trump does - the lies, the hypocricy, the sheer incompetency - not even on their radar. They simply don't care. In fact the more Trump unhinges, the more they can simply dismiss it as yet more leftist conspiracy against him.

Just look at the fanboys on this site - their blind allegiance is really something.

The phenomenon of 'Trump' is a symptom of American society in decline.

'Trumpists' don't support him in spite of his psychological disorder, lies, hypocrisy and sheer incompetency... They support him because of them.

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Reply #3 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 10:31pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
Of course they are. Because they don't vote for Trump the man, they vote for the ideal they think he represents. Thus it doesn't matter what Trump does - the lies, the hypocricy, the sheer incompetency - not even on their radar. They simply don't care. In fact the more Trump unhinges, the more they can simply dismiss it as yet more leftist conspiracy against him.

Just look at the fanboys on this site - their blind allegiance is really something.

The phenomenon of 'Trump' is a symptom of American society in decline.

'Trumpists' don't support him in spite of his psychological disorder, lies, hypocrisy and sheer incompetency... They support him because of them.



the decline started long before trump. it's been in decline at least since the radicals of the 1960-70s. the trump phenomenon is a fightback against this decline. whether it'll be successful is another question.
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Reply #4 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 11:04pm
 
What took you so long, FD?
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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 11:52pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 10:31pm:
the trump phenomenon is a fightback against this decline.

People at a low ebb will believe not so much in anything from anyone, but from a certain personality type.

Like L Ron Hubbard before him, there are three aspects to Trump that make him capable of galvanising a movement such as we've seen with Trump supporters in a society as fearful of the future as the US... He's destructive, charismatic and rich.

L Ron Hubbard ended his days broken and in hiding as his narcissism and paranoia ate him from the inside out. Trump is heading down the same road.
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Reply #6 - Mar 6th, 2017 at 11:59pm
 
I'm not sure what we're supposed to take away from this.

That we shouldn't vote for the candidate that appeals to us? 

That would seem to be it...but then I remembered - I am not supposed to take anything from this.  This was not written for me, this was written as confirmation-bias fodder for the drones. 

There's plenty of that these days, so eat up.
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Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 12:01am
 
... wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 11:59pm:
That we shouldn't vote for the candidate that appeals to us?


that you shouldn't vote for the liar that also admits to sexually molesting women, would probably be a good start.
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Reply #8 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 12:05am
 
Yawn.

It's gone past "fake news", Now it's fake indignation from ordinary people.   

As evil as these nice people are, you've gotta marvel at the advances they've made in propaganda technology. 
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Reply #9 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 12:07am
 
[quote author=Time link=1488797978/3#3 date=1488803491 the trump phenomenon is a fightback against this decline. whether it'll be successful is another question.
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It isn't so clear cut. The Trump movement may lead to improvements in some area, in others, it won't because it can't - healthcare, for example.
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Reply #10 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:06am
 
... wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Yawn.

It's gone past "fake news", Now it's fake indignation from ordinary people.   

As evil as these nice people are, you've gotta marvel at the advances they've made in propaganda technology. 


Nicely put, Honky, much better than my analysis.

For moi, it's all about porkies.
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Reply #11 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:19am
 
60 million people voted for Trump, not because they believed him or trusted him but simply because he was a Republican candidate and they put political allegiance above intelligence, morality and patriotism.

When ideology trumps all else then trouble like this occurs.
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longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:19am:
60 million people voted for Trump, not because they believed him or trusted him but simply because he was a Republican candidate and they put political allegiance above intelligence, morality and patriotism.

When ideology trumps all else then trouble like this occurs.

If only it were that easy...

I was listening to a BBC report yesterday, where the reporters asked Trump supporters at a rally what they would think of Trump if most of what he said turned out to be lies... Most, apparently, just shrugged their shoulders.


Politifact...

    True                  15 (4%)(15)
    Mostly True        45 (12%)(45)
    Half True           54 (14%)(54)
    Mostly False       75 (20%)(75)
    False               123 (33%)(123)
    Pants on Fire     63 (17%)(63)
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Reply #13 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:34am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:30am:
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:19am:
60 million people voted for Trump, not because they believed him or trusted him but simply because he was a Republican candidate and they put political allegiance above intelligence, morality and patriotism.

When ideology trumps all else then trouble like this occurs.

If only it were that easy...

I was listening to a BBC report yesterday, where the reporters asked Trump supporters at a rally what they would think of Trump if most of what he said turned out to be lies... Most, apparently, just shrugged their shoulders.


Of course they did.

These people are amongst the most immoral, ignorant citizens their country has.

They wouldn't know their arse from their elbow, and they don't really care.

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Reply #14 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 8:40am
 
While I would still oppose the notion, it does question whether or not there should be some threshold or qualification for being allowed to vote. Do you think if an IQ minimum was introduced trump would have lost 20 million votes immediately?

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