longweekend58 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 12:42pm:


On top of that, we've gone from blaming Obama for what he inherited, what we called locally the GFC, and the spending that Bush locked in to try to overcome it.  These were actions that were before Obama's time and some things he even voted against as a Senator, but still, the line was drawn in the sand, it was all his fault.

Then there was the way many bills and legislation had to be modified to pass Republican control and be signed into law.  These changes in many cases, especially in the case of the ACA, left the resulting legislation a mere shadow of it's former self, and even though it was the Republicans who engineered this, Obama get's the blame.

So we've gone from all of that, to now under Trump, nothing is his fault, nothing.  He lies, media's fault.  He says something stupid our beyond community standards, "PC culture gone mad", and worst of all, everything he's inherited from Obama, even the damage that was Republican caused, that some how goes back to being Obama's fault. 

The rules are far too fluid and get to be changed to suit the conservatives all too often.  But it's even worse this time around.  Trump almost has a pathological need to be a winner, or for him to at least think that is how people see him.  We've seen it with the inauguration crowd sizes and weather, we've seen it with him taking credit for outcomes from legislation that was enacted well before he even put his hand up for nomination, and we continue to see it with how he tries to poison the narratives by attacking people, reporters or the MSM as a whole. 

Then apparently because he's been copping too much well deserved flack, he held a campaign rally to get people cheering for him again?  Seriously!?

He's all about perception, mainly how he thinks people see him.  The country won't get a look in until he can get past that.  Given he's only ever gone in the other direction over the past 20 years, it ain't gonna happen.

Again, as I've said before, I'd love to be wrong, but taking an objective look at Trump and his actions over the past, let's even just take the last 4 years, we don't even have to go back much further than that, he's only getting more and more disconnected and unhinged and it's gone from the "Trump" brand being what is important to him personally.

I don't know who or what to believe about his foaming tweet about the phone tapping, but given how he's reacted in the past, this reeks like him trying to get out in front of an impending scandal, one that must be quite serious given his reaction.

Time will tell what the security agencies have on him, most likely garnered from FISA monitoring not that of Trump himself.  It will be interesting what happens, but either way, nothing good will come from it.

You're still trying to pretend the old left;democrat/right;republican paradigm holds.

Trump supporters in the large don't care about which party buggered what up - The whole system is rotten.  Republican and Democrat, just as with Liberal and Labor,  both buggered up and betrayed the people. 

What you are witnessing in real time is the redrawing of a new paradigm.  The neocons have been sprung from their cover in the republican party and are returning back to their homeland - the democratic party.  Trumps election wasn't just a disavowal by the forgotten voters of the current democrat party, it is a disavowal of the old republican party.   Your average Trump voter isn't going to argue when you criticise Bush.

... wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:09pm:



it'll be interesting to see where the people go from here once they realise trump isn't going to be their saviour.

John Smith wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:


My guess is you think mass disenfranchisement will be funny - haha those dumb righties with their vain hope for a better world.  That they'll just take further disenfranchisement with good humour, then slink back to their cubicles with their tails between their legs, while you point and laugh.

But you'd better hope that doesn't come to pass, because you can't put that kind of rage back in the bottle.  Perhaps when millions are dead, you might wish you hadn't prayed for failure.  Perhaps not.

... wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:17pm:



then you'd be wrong. I think there is huge potential for civil unrest. No one fights harder than someone who has nothing to lose.

I also find it interesting that you went from claiming trump supporters don't care about the whole left right paradigm, to suddenly claiming they're righties. 

Obama tapping phones hey? That's what happens when you let black people into the white house. 

John Smith wrote on Mar 6^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:


Read carefully, smith.

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The old paradigm, where right is synonymous with republican.  They identify as "right" not as republicans.   

As I said, they feel betrayed by the old republican party that was supposed to represent their interests, but didn't. 

A new right and a new left will emerge, but they won't bear much resemblance to the one-party-masquerading-as-two system we've got today.